Some civil parishes are even cities (I am thinking of Salisbury for example). And some cities don't have a council of their own (e.g. Bath).
So it is all dependent on how you look at it. Current population, historical status, government/democratic decisions... On 2015-09-14 09:53, Mark Goodge wrote: > On 14/09/2015 00:41, Tom Hughes wrote: On 14/09/15 00:16, Lester Caine wrote: > > The OSM wiki defines 'hamlet' as less than 100-200 people, but village > supposedly starts at 1000 up to 10000 with the proviso that it depends > on the country. Ideally the two would perhaps meet :) We are perhaps > looking at a population of around 8000 for a town designation in the UK, > but anything down to 100 is still classified as a village by the ONS. > What are actually missing from the OSN data are ANY hamlets despite > their claiming to include them. > Please don't try and draw bright lines based on population, and > certainly don't try and mass edit things based on that. It's much more > subjective than that. > > Nobody would ever have described the place where I grew up as anything > other than a town, but we always used to reckon on a population of > around 3000 people (wikipedia says 5627 as of the 2011 census) and > certainly 8000 sounds very high to me. Historically, the distinction between a hamlet, a village and a town was based on ecclesiastical parishes. A village was a populated area comprising a parish of its own, with one parish church. A town was a contiguous populated area comprising multiple ecclesiastical parishes, while a hamlet was a populated area too small to have its own parish (and thus being contained within another one, either a village parish or an outlying area of a town parish). This official distinction has been lost over the years with multiple phases of local government reorganisation, but it still provides a good rule of thumb. In England and Wales, a civil parish council can choose to style itself a town council if it wishes. The majority of those which have done so are those which, prior to the Local Government Act 1972, would have been a Municipal Borough (eg, Evesham or Lewes) and which meet the historical definition of a town, but by no means all of them fall into this category. What that means is that population alone is a no more than a rough guide to the likely status of a town or village, at least in England and Wales. There's a significant overlap between the largest villages and the smallest towns. Mark
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