On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 19:20 +0000, Andrew Hain wrote:
> But surely I can see no obvious harm in the presence of the relations. Also 
> searching the database by reference doesn’t always work, for instance not all 
> road segments tagged  A1 in the UK are part of the road from London to 
> Edinburgh.
> 
In the UK, there are obviously 2 roads with the ref=A1, although there
should only be one in GB.

As Richard pointed out, relations do raise the bar for new mappers and
add zero value to the map.

Phil (trigpoint)


>________________________________________
> From: Chris Hill <[email protected]>
> Sent: 07 December 2015 10:27
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road
> 
> On 07/12/15 18:11, Philip Barnes wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-12-05 at 00:54 +0000, Dave F. wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I know this has been discussed before , but recent edits by user:
> >> abc26324 prompts me to ask/verify again the point of road relations
> >> in the UK. Example:
> >>
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/103301#map=10/51.2112/-2.5578
> >>
> >> Route relations are meant to represent, err... routes taken by people
> >> that transverse multiple different ways; such as bus cycle etc & not
> >> just a 'collection' of things, especially when they can easily be
> >> collated/extracted from the ref on the actual way.
> >>
> >> I notice even the M4/M5 have one apiece. This has lead to tag
> >> duplication which can never be a good thing.
> >>
> >> Are there any roads in GB where references are shared? If not, I see
> >> no reason for their existence.
> >>
> > I have noticed that he is at it again and has not responded to either
> > my comment with regards to the A50, or chillly's comments with regard
> > to the A161.
> >
> > This time he has added a relation for the bits of the A1 that are not
> > A1(M), there is already an A1 relation. I again am not sure why we need
> > such relations, and the history is too big to view.delete
> >
> The author has not responded, so I have deleted the route relation for
> A161. I will use changeset comments on any more that I find in the UK to
> discuss why they are there - my expectation would be to delete any
> others but only after attempting to engage the author.
> 
> --
> Cheers, Chris (chillly)
> 
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