On 01/07/2016 13:27, Christian Ledermann wrote:
I'd also like to see an aggregator like http://planetpython.org/ or
http://planet.plone.org/
to have a central place where all UK OSM related blogs are consolidated
which could be integrated in the main website (see http://iwlearn.net/news)

As an aside I've been developing websites (most of them with a strong community
background) for a living for over 10 years.


On 1 July 2016 at 13:12, Christian Ledermann
<[email protected]> wrote:
It very much depends what the focus of the website is and how it is
going to be used.
From a sysadmins point of view i am weary about wordpress (or joomla,
drupal) because
it requires constant vigilance to install the latest version and
patches, which are quite frequent
so the initial setup time becomes a moot point over the lifetime of a website.


Before I jump to conclusions which technology to suggest it would be
nice to gather requirements
so an informed decision can be made.


On 1 July 2016 at 11:43, Harry Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm interested in helping out with an OSM UK website. I have a few ideas.

Actually the thing I'm most interested in is what you're touching on here. I'm 
keen to avoid a situation where we have a website festering unmaintained, or 
even just having niggling things wrong with it, and no way for me to 
pro-actively fix them.

Being easy to use, as an admin, is good...  however that doesn't help somebody 
who's not an admin. Given our large group of (quite a lot of tech savvy) UK 
OSmers, the contribution model of wordpress might feel a bit restrictive. In 
fact I've felt this frustration with some of the past SOTM websites. It's not 
so good for allowing the wider community to pro-actively fix a niggle.

I guess what I'm saying is... I'm happy with wordpress as long as I am one of 
the admins :-)

A git repo approach is quite a neat contribution model for this kind of thing. 
But yeah it's not as easy as editing wordpress. If Rob is going to be the most 
pro-active maintainer, and he's not comfortable with github, then that's 
certainly a problem with that idea.

I'm imagining an OSM UK website could be quite heavy on syndicated content. It 
could copy in and present these mailing list posts, the forum, and even have a 
chatroom (web->IRC). That would help keep it fresh, and relevant to our 
community with less onus on a restricted set of admin users (I think this idea is 
a thing we should do regardless of what the rest of the site is built with)

The key messages of the website will of course depend on the other discussion 
we're having here: What are the main goals and key messages of the OSM UK 
organisation/community?

Harry
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Hi Dennis,

Don't worry about hosting issues when comparing the options. The group should 
probably get its own hosting anyway. The Mappa Mercia one is super easy to use 
and that's coming from somebody who is not techy at all.

To set up the wordpress account all that was needed was to sign in to Webfaction 
dashboard, select "add new application" and then click wordpress. Ta-da a fully 
functional wordpress installation! Since then we added an application for simple (static) 
pages. This is how we drive the maps on mappa-mercia.org.


Key things is that whatever we do it is easy to use. The old mappa-mercia site 
wasn't and we were dependent on one person. When he left the site died. 
Similarly the current state of the map website is github pages system and is 
too techie for me. This is frustrating as I now rely on one or two people to do 
the updates. You need the barrier to be low so that as many people as possible 
can be involved with keeping it maintained.



Rob

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I have setup a wordpress site.

http://osmuk.org/

Please drop me a mail if you want to become an editor and start posting or an administrator and help with the general layout.

Best,
Dennis



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