Fire route does not seem to be in use other than in descriptions: I think it should be avoided in this context because one can envisage a route=fire_route being used to describe the route to escape a building in an emergency.
Not can I find actual tagged usage of fire_access_route on taginfo. Unfortunately the DoT Road Markings manual doesn't mention them either, but the documented usage in signage & road markings of "Fire Path" covers Glasgow, Nottingham, and Tolworth (Greater London), so I suspect this is the official term. Jerry On 3 February 2017 at 15:15, Andy Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > I think I’ve used “fire_route” to describe these in the past. Or perhaps > “fire_access_route”. Well you get the drift. Signage is often put up by the > developer (for housing developments - where you often see these) so I doubt > there is any common naming convention on the ground. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > > > *From:* Paul Berry [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* 03 February 2017 14:35 > *To:* SK53 > *Cc:* talk-gb > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc) > > > > Thanks again. I'll tag the textured paving as a barrier. > > > > Also, in the Leeds example I've given, cycling is not permitted because > there is a No Entry sign at each end of the path. This is something that is > also picked up on here: http://www.andypreece. > co.uk/cycling/fac_leverndale.php > > > > Further browsing has revealed Fire Paths are actually fairly common in the > Glasgow area: https://www.cyclestreets.net/photomap/tags/firepath > > > > You learn something new every day. > > > > Regards, > > *Paul* > > > > On 3 February 2017 at 13:54, SK53 <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd think that the rows of raised-textured paving can be mapped as a > barrier, with access=emergency too. > > I'm glad that the photos I added to the wiki confirm my memory that "fire > path" is the word used on the signs. Was wondering where I got it from. > > Cheers, > > Jerry > > > > On 3 February 2017 at 12:20, Paul Berry <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Jerry. I thought the Nottingham features would get your attention > :) > > I'm surprised I missed the Fire Path page on the Wiki, but thanks for the > confirmation that fire_path=yes is the way to go. > > > > As for the textured paving, I'm not sure anything surface= > or traffic_calming= matches it, so I'll not tag it. > > > > (Out of interest, this Aberdeen one used to be a Fire Path, but the > emergency/access tags have not been updated accordingly: https://www. > openstreetmap.org/way/124065409) > > > > Regards, > > *Paul* > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2017 at 11:17, SK53 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Looks like a documented on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap. > org/wiki/Fire_Path > > > > On 3 February 2017 at 11:15, SK53 <[email protected]> wrote: > > The tag that I have used for such things is fire_path=yes. > > There are 4 uses of the tag in Nottingham and 2 in Aberdeen. There are > several others not tagged (including the two recent ones you mention), for > instance this one <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/43328389> where Suez > Street joins North Gate outside Port Said Villas (I wonder when these > streets were built). > > The structures involved may be as illustrated by Paul. The older > Nottingham ones tend to have a zone of the wavy block paving which is > 10-15ft long and thus not a normal road in any sense. Other fire paths I've > seen involve two locked boom gates. > > Jerry > > > > On 2 February 2017 at 22:20, Paul Berry <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Fire roads are an uncommon sight in the UK. They're sometimes signed as > "fire lanes," but they're nothing to do with the designation in the US (and > elsewhere) which is a parking restriction: https://wiki. > openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane and we're also not talking about > the wide tracks in managed forests that act as a firebreak. > > > > I mean restricted highways like this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ > way/240007969 (whose source links to photo evidence). > > > > How do we map these? I assume service=emergency_access? > > > > Also, how is the embedded roughly-textured paving in that photo best > represented? > > > > There are some similar ones in Nottingham, notably at Addington Road and > Wimbourne Road there, though they're not mapped as such. > > > > Your advice and guidance gratefully received. > > > > Regards, > > *Paul* > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > > > > > > > >
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