Hi, On 21.12.2017 10:15, Ilya Zverev wrote: > Frederik and Tom, please explain what has been wrong with the last import, > and why osm_conflate + cf_audit tools used for it (conflation + community > validation) still do not attain the required quality for OSM contributions?
Your tools are certainly best on the market. Still I wish they had not been written at all. > How would you build a process for importing large batches of business chains? I am 100% against importing large batches of business chains. That data has no place in *my* vision of OSM; it should reside in a separate open database which anyone can choose to add to their local data set if and when needed. My vision of OSM is that of a grassroots movement that makes its own decisions about the data. We decide what the fuel station around the corner is called - not the marketing department of the fuel station chain. Corporate interests already dictate enough of our everyday lives; I don't want Shell to "help" me show the "right" information about their fuel stations. A lot is wrong with capitalism; large chains are one of those things. Small independent shops, booksellers, or pubs *already* face difficulties against the marketing and purchasing power of big corporations. Your approach will ultimately lead to every last large-chain pub in England being nicely mapped from afar, whereas the independent pub next door has to wait until a mapper comes around. You might say "well one pub mapped in town is better than no pub", but this is not my opinion; I would have wished for OpenStreetMap to be a map made by the people, not a map made by corporations large enough to hire SEO companies to manage their online presence. I am totally aware that "my" vision of OSM is a romantic dream and that ultimately, OSM is going to be just another venue for big money to battle it out, but please allow me to at least talk about this romantic dream from time to time. As I said, part of "growing up" is probably to toss your romantic dreams an accept reality for what it is. I'm totally ok with you being more grown up than me. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [email protected] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
