I got in touch with Chris Crocker who is listed on the DoBIH homepage as a contact (and as it turns out is a very friendly and knowledgeable person). I'm quoting here his initial response (with permission to share it) to further discussion:
We would be happy to see DoBIH data used in OpenStreetMap. One of the > motivations behind the creation of the DoBIH in 2001 was to resolve > conflicting sources of information on the web by providing a database that > we hoped would be definitive. We've had some success as two-thirds of > hillwalking websites and all the current smartphone apps take data from the > DoBIH. > > I don't have a problem with signing your document but I'll run it past the > other editors. > > I don't believe you need any other permissions to use data from the DoBIH. > OS maps, being creative works, are subject to Crown copyright and OS > requires an acknowledgement for their reuse, but I have always understood > that heights and grid references are scientific fact and as such are not > copyrightable. Certainly there are hundreds of commercial publications in > the hillwaking world that tabulate such data. None of those that I've read > do more than mention OS maps as the source of their data. The OS data we > use is derived from the maps on geograph.org.uk which gives OS mapping at > all scales from 1:250,000 to 1:10,000. According to the site the Geograph > maps are licensed under the OS OpenSpace Developer Agreement. I note that > your Contributors page credits Ordnance Survey OpenData. Other heights and > grid references are derived from the Environmental Agency's LIDAR surveys > which are freely available on the DEFRA platform, from detailed hill > surveys conducted by ourselves and third parties who supply data to us, and > from numerous walkers who submit 10-figure grid references (these are > responsible for over 60% of summit GRs). We acknowledge all sources and > contributors in the Database Notes as you have observed. > > You might have noticed that our popular Hill Bagging website, which hosts > the interactive version of the database, recently added links to OSM on > each hill's data page. See for example > http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/mountaindetails.php?qu=S&rf=278 > > I expect the DoBIH could contribute much to OSM, but personally I am too > busy maintaining the DoBIH to do so myself! I probably speak for the other > editors too. I believe one of our users, who goes under the name of > Talkytoaster > on your forum, has contributed to OSM for many years. > Regards On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 11:28 AM Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/02/2019 23:31, Silent Spike wrote: > > I recently came across the DoBIH > <http://www.hills-database.co.uk/downloads.html> which you can see is > licensed under CC BY 3.0. > > > At least one user claims already asked for permission to use this data: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/36758689 > > (I've not seen anything public from that source though, and of course > whether they gave permission doesn't address whether some of the data has > actually come from another source first, such as the OS). > > Best Regards, > > Andy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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