For an example of possible name mismatch, see the edit history for node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/485404488 which is shown at https://flic.kr/p/2igLCco
For an example of stops being amalgamated see: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/435846038 when https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/485404491/history and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/436185070/history were deleted. See the changeset for discussion: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74179599 I am not the only person editting stops locally -- but none of us have added not:name -- just tried to map what is there. Cheers, Neil On 18/01/2020 18:40, Cj Malone wrote: > Hey Neil, > > I don't know which nodes you are talking about, but of the ones I'm > looking at (where "name" != name from new NaPTAN data using > "naptan:AtcoCode"). The vast majority haven't been updated in 10 years, > since the NaPTAN import, or one edit where "naptan:verified" was > changed to yes. > > I am not doing automatic, or blind edits. It would have been helpful if > when you changed names from NaPTAN import to surveyed you used > "not:name", but that doesn't matter. When I make the edits I can look > at the history of the node, and if a mapper has changed the name semi > recently I will not change it but rather add a "fixme" describing the > issue. > > Thanks, > Cj > > On Sat, 2020-01-18 at 15:01 +0000, Neil Matthews wrote: >> No, please don't update mismatched bus stop names "blindly". >> >> I've surveyed a lot locally and have updated them to the newest >> values >> from paper timetables -- which have newer names than on metal >> signage. >> They also match the names that the local council have used when >> updating >> OSM. A lot of names were surveyed that didn't need to be changed -- I >> don't know how you would ensure that you didn't change them to some >> incorrect official value. Obviously, you shouldn't be changing names >> that weren't in the preious Naptan data -- you should at least assume >> that they are now newer and likely to come from surveyed data. >> >> The best approach is either to add official_name (naptan_name?) and >> leave "name" alone, or provide a mechanism where local mappers can >> survey mismatches between your dataset and what is currently in OSM. >> At >> the very, very least you should move "name" to "old_name". >> >> Best regards, >> Neil >> >> P.S. At least locally there are locations where several bus stops >> have >> been amalgamated into a single one. Also some are now >> disused:bus_stop >> if no services are currently stopping there. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
