Dear CJ et al.,

I have added the ability to take pictures directly in the app of drinking
water fountains and refill cafés which are already in OSM and showing in
the European Water Project Web App.

https://europeanwaterproject.org?lang=EN

Capturing an image from the webrtc camera and adding the users geo
coordinates to the exif meta data was a challenge.  The user takes the
geolocalized picture within the app and it shows up immediately within the
app after getting stored on an AWS  S3 storage (with the exif meta data).
 After that, the images are semi-manually copied to Mapillary and linked to
OpenStreetMap objects. I am separately in discussions with Wikimedia about
seeing if there is streamlined way to add the images on Commons as well.

Here is a video of how the image capture process works:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbYC1xwsjCySv1g9LPHx3zX07SNtCeuI

Best regards,

Stuart

PS : It's great to see so many refill cafés showing up on the map. We are
almost at 300 refill establishments !



On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 14:01, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear CJ,
>
> I agree with your opinion of how open data Refill really is.
>
> The idea of contacting chains in Q3 or Q4 (or early next year depending on
> how the current crisis unfolds) makes a lot of sense.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 13:55 Cj Malone <cjmal...@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> "You can download our proprietary app, that uses our proprietary data, on
>> 2 proprietary app stores, on 2 proprietary platforms. The app is open."
>>
>> Doesn't make much sense to me, but oh well.
>>
>> Seriously though, I added the only local place I know about. But would it
>> be appropriate to contact some of the corporate chains involved, like Costa
>> and Starbucks, see if it is 100% universal across there UK stores and then
>> talk about an bulk import?
>>
>> Cj
>>
>> On 20 March 2020 10:55:39 GMT, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Just got off a long conversation with Rebecca Burgess, CEO of Refill.
>>>
>>> Unsurprisingly, Refill has no plans to share any of their proprietary
>>> data, but their App is open because anybody can use it  :)
>>>
>>> Refill has plans to use more and more OpenStreetMap data to populate
>>> their network over time without re-contributing ...   Just a shame everyone
>>> can't just use the Refill App (sarcasm) !
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> PS: Stay safe !
>>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 23:59, European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Andy,
>>>>
>>>> If Refill.org.uk  were to "license" their data to OSM, under what
>>>> terms would that be concretely?  I don't want to misspeak (not show my
>>>> total ignorance on the subject) when I talk to Rebecca Burgess, the Refill
>>>> CEO on Tuesday.
>>>>
>>>> In the unlikely event that Refill's position changes, with whom can I
>>>> put her in contact with?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stuart
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 21:10 Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:27, Jake Edmonds via Talk-GB
>>>>> <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  I understand Refill.org.uk are unwilling to license their data.
>>>>>
>>>>> They said this in July 2017:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://twitter.com/Refill/status/888831637345234945
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been pressing them on the point of open licensing, recently:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1216689988357718018
>>>>>
>>>>> and have again today chased them for a response:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238919492568260609
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andy Mabbett
>>>>> @Pigsonthewing
>>>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>>>>>
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