Commited changes from jgc, http://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/OSMHaiti
usage like this : perl parse.pl HaitiHealthFacilities_Master2.csv > HaitiHealthFacilities_Master2.osm On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Talk-ht mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-ht digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities > Master List]] (nicolas chavent) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:14:59 +0100 > From: nicolas chavent <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health > Facilities Master List]] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29 > > > is the more stable > I'll get it updated with the recent attributes and values from the Shana - > PAHO release and what I did not finish entering in the wiki yeserday. In > interactions with WHO experts on how to best reconcile the 2 models > > Full agreement with refraining from any bulk upload at this stage and again > wait on Kate Chapman status while preparing any HFacs elements we can be > knowledgeable of to be able to move collectively efficienlty > > Best > N > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Karl Guggisberg > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> here's another OSM file generated from the Health Facilities Master list >> http://www.guggis.ch/haiti/HaitiHealthFacilities_Master.osm >> >> It includes more attributes than the list posted earlier. **Do not import >> this file automatically, though**. We should first agree on the set of OSM >> tags to be used and how the attributes in the master list are mapped onto >> them. >> >> What is the status of >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29 >> >> in particular in comparision with >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Draft_Ontology_for_healthcare_facilities >> >> Which of the two tagging schemes is more stable? >> >> Regards >> Karl >> >> >> Am 02.02.2010 11:05, schrieb nicolas chavent: >> >> Jean Guilhem and all. >> >> Just got back on-line: all the people who worked on the Health Facility >> themes want this thematic layer in osm as compehrensive in the most timely >> manner both: >> - (i) in terms of coverage of geo features: this is addressed by the data >> conflation work Kate Chapman and others including Sahan, US Health Govt, WHO >> and WHO-PAHO were involved in and which lead to this release by David. >> Kate was working on a conflation of this superset with OSM and I think we >> have to wait on her updating us on the status of the work to act >> collectively in an efficient manner. She'll be up soon (living in US Est >> Time). >> - (ii) in terms of semantic interoperability: this is being addressed >> through the data modeling and coordination work I an running on this Health >> object with Kate Chapman, David Smith, Andrew Turner, WHO experts and >> Emergency coordinators, GIS Coordinators from GIS-NGOs deployed on the >> ground. I'll be integrating this last set of attributes elements from PAHO >> to the data model and issue a new version available on the wiki at >> URL >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29 >> >> This has to be seen as the formulation of field requirements for health >> facility geodata management in the perspective of OSM being closely tied to >> this new phase of the humanitarian response with more contents generated and >> shared from on the ground experts. >> Sahana through the portal shared by David allows for online data entry by >> Field Health practitioners. >> Kate ensured a way to refresh OSM attributes with this field contributed >> contents. >> On top of that WHO and PAHO are considering using directly OSM Editors to >> manage this data and relay on OSM DB for this operation at the condition of >> relying on interoperable HFacs tags. >> This is not small stuff and to allow this to happen again shortly, let's >> wait for Kate to give us a status of her work and once the attributes >> contents are on the wiki let's look at our tagging for this Health Fac layer >> which should not be too difficult since the OSM MapFeatures coverage of >> Health Care-related objects is limited. >> URL >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital >> >> Hope this helps >> Best >> N >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Nicolas, >>> >>> Can't we rely on healthC_ID for later incorporation of other tags (which >>> are mostly empty for now) ? >>> >> >> >>> >>> Isn't it a kind of emergency in itself to have the points, with precise >>> location, name, and unambiguous ID in the OSM data base ? For use on the >>> ground ? >>> >>> >>> "Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate >>> this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data between >>> groups." >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jean-Guilhem >>> >>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : Re: [Talk-ht] [Fwd: >>> [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List] Date : Tue, 2 Feb >>> 2010 09:33:09 +0100 De : nicolas chavent >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> Pour : >>> [email protected] Copie ? : >>> >>> Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]> <[email protected]> R?f?rences : >>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Hi there >>> >>> Thanks Jean Guilhem for forwarding this post on this fundamental asset, >>> before embarking into any bulk upload and exposing ourselves to double risk >>> of duplication and data losses , we shall hear back from Kate Chapman who >>> had been involved in the work of the group making this resource available >>> and on conflating it with the OSM data base. >>> >>> We shall also look at the semantic aspect of this conflation work and make >>> sure the tags we will be setting for the HFacs description besides the >>> Unifying Unique ID set by the Minist?re de la Sant? Publique et de la >>> Population (MSPP) are interoperable with the ones used in the World >>> Health Organization (Geneva) and PAHO (Pan American World Health >>> Organization). >>> Since both organizations are envisaging to use the osm platform to manage >>> this Health Facility layer at the condition of relying on interoperable >>> tags. >>> >>> I'll be reverting to the group soon with the "final" list of proposed >>> values, a first unfortunately incomplete set is readable on the HT wiki >>> URL >>> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29 >>> >>> Later then >>> Best to all >>> N. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ? >>>> (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points) >>>> >>>> I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might already be >>>> present in OSM. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jean-Guilhem >>>> (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?)) >>>> (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk) >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health >>>> Facilities Master List Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600 De : David >>>> William Bitner <[email protected]> <[email protected]> R?pondre >>>> ? : [email protected] Pour : >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly >>>> available at >>>> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/. >>>> This represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks. >>>> >>>> Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is based >>>> on the Minist?re de la Sant? Publique et de la Population (MSPP) of >>>> Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and transient health >>>> facilities. Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to >>>> incorporate this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data >>>> between groups. This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being maintained >>>> by >>>> WHO/PAHO and the website allows for submitting corrections and additions to >>>> keep the dataset up to date. >>>> >>>> David >>>> Sahana Software Foundation >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ************************************ >>>> David William Bitner >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "CrisisMappers" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-ht mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nicolas Chavent >>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti >>> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Skype: c_nicolas >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ? >>>> (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points) >>>> >>>> I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might already be >>>> present in OSM. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jean-Guilhem >>>> (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?)) >>>> (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk) >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health >>>> Facilities Master List Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600 De : David >>>> William Bitner <[email protected]> <[email protected]> R?pondre >>>> ? : [email protected] Pour : >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly >>>> available at >>>> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/. >>>> This represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks. >>>> >>>> Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is based >>>> on the Minist?re de la Sant? Publique et de la Population (MSPP) of >>>> Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and transient health >>>> facilities. Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to >>>> incorporate this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data >>>> between groups. This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being maintained >>>> by >>>> WHO/PAHO and the website allows for submitting corrections and additions to >>>> keep the dataset up to date. >>>> >>>> David >>>> Sahana Software Foundation >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ************************************ >>>> David William Bitner >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "CrisisMappers" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-ht mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nicolas Chavent >>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti >>> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Skype: c_nicolas >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nicolas Chavent >> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti >> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70 >> Email: [email protected] >> Skype: c_nicolas >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ht mailing >> [email protected]http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ht mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht >> >> > > > -- > Nicolas Chavent > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti > Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70 > Email: [email protected] > Skype: c_nicolas > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ht/attachments/20100202/a23de625/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ht mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht > > > End of Talk-ht Digest, Vol 2, Issue 5 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ Talk-ht mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht
