Hey Paul/Rory/Bartosz,

The building detail and general geometry is pretty awesome and not
something that can be achieved from the best Yahoo orthophotos
available in Ireland.

Paul, GPS traces are usefull for general road alignment, and the
average from a number of traces gives a good indication of the road
position. The misalignment between multiple traces for a single road
are evidence of the inherent inaccuracy of consumer GPS devices. These
devices are definitely not capable of returing this level of detail.

Multipathing is another reason that GPS devices fall over when trying
to map buildings/structures. Rory, you are correct, roof access would
be a creative solution, but highly unlikely.  Put any GPS near a
building and it's accuracy suffers badly. In fact, if you have ever
seen Ordnance Surveys vector mapping products and the building
outlines, I'm certain most of it is derived from high resolution
orthophotos. Most of my additions to OSM have been thru "Heads-up"
digitising off orthorectified Yahoo images, so I have a fairly good
idea of what is reasonably achivable!

Just having a look through some of Letterkennys comments with the
uploads, it seems road data from Tobins (Consulting Engineers) has
been used? From my experience all Consulting Engineers drawings have
some copyright which would preclude them from use in OSM. Even taken
in charge drawings submitted to County Councils have copyright
disclaimers. He may well have received suitable 3rd party permissions,
BUT, this should be clearly documented on the Ireland Wiki. This would
avoid these kinds of emails and the unfortunate and uncomfortable
discussions which follow!

Cheers Rory keep us posted.

Regards,
Paul



On 1 August 2010 20:21, Rory McCann <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 01/08/10 20:11, Paul O'Shea wrote:
>> Paul, is there a particular reason why the Letterkenny map appears to
>> you to be from imagery? I'm not challenging your interpretation, I'd
>> just like to understand the reasoning for future reference in my own
>> mapping.
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> Building outlines are hard to get from GPS traces (unless you have free
> roam on the roof), but easy to get from aerial imagery. Letterkenny
> General Hospital has a detailed building outline:
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> Rory
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