On 27/03/2014, Colm Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > Resolved note #140906 > Description > > "Clones Road (National Road N54)" according to Road Traffic (Special Speed > Limits)(County Monaghan) Bye-Laws, 2014 > > **Confirmed** by OSi, Google, Bing, NTA JP > Created by anonymous 23 minutes ago > Resolved by 12element 21 minutes ago > > This note includes comments from anonymous users which should be > independently verified. > > Resolved by 12element 21 minutes ago > > Sources Prohibited. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Both the council and Department of Transport refer to it as "Clones Road" > and it indeed it goes to Clones. > > S.I. No. 53/2012 - Roads Act 1993 (Classification of National Roads) > Order 2012 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2012/en/si/0053.html places > Clones Road west of Market Road and east of Mullaghadun and > Tullygrimes. > > Why are separate council and governmental sources, available under the > European Communities (Re-Use of Public Sector Information) Regulations 2005 > (SI 279 of 2005) referred to as "Sources Prohibited"? > > I have only used OSi, Google, Bing, NTA JP as confirmation - not original > sources. NTA JP actually misspells it as "Clones Raod" at one point, but you > get the idea. :) Even if I only used OSi, Google, Bing, NTA JP as original > sources, surely that is 'genuine' research', not plagiarism.
Please understand that we have to be a bit paranoiac about sources for OSM data. We need to be "whiter than white", and the mere mention of OSi/Google/etc raise red flags immediately. If a note mentions it, even if it mentions other usable sources, we quickly wonder wether the data is license-safe at all. In a sense, the fact that $proprietary_data_provider agrees is something that we cannot use, it's uninteresting, it's off-topic. On the other hand, we just need one good source to accept the info. Ideally the note author has surveyed the area. Just saying "the by-laws declared it" isn't really a source, but a link to the proper irish status book page (which is a source osm can use) is great and should IMHO be accepted. It is a bit silly that a note simplay saying "This is Clones Road" might be taken at face value but a detailed one like yours might not. Silly but that's how the mind works, focusing on red flag keywords. Take it as a personal reminder that these should raise red flags in your mind as well. Simply do not look at GM/OSi/etc when contributing OSM data. _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
