I don't think the text Barony or Civil Parish should be added - that detail is already contained in the relation. This is adding redundancy and cartographic clutter. The townlands.ie method of using a check box to add layers and different colours works well. From what I can see only the baronies in Wexford have this added instance. And generations of previous cartographers and users have managed quite well without!
Regards Brian On 3 December 2014 at 12:00, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Talk-ie mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-ie digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Inclusion of "Barony of .. as prefix to all Barony names? > (John Kennedy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 23:39:01 +0000 > From: John Kennedy <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Inclusion of "Barony of .. as prefix to all > Barony names? > Message-ID: > < > canx1afb4g-fowkevqwhoa2pkyzdvlbmmtetsyk-sij5xtnc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Brian thanks for raising this point - may I broaden it a little? > > I too noticed that some mappers include "ED" and "Civil Parish" but > actually many do not and I haven't noticed any guidance on this > anywhere for the moment. So it would be good to come to a consensus on > these terms also. > > Thinking about it a bit, I would suggest we try to find a way to > improve the readability of the map rather than add the extra text to > the names of CPs, EDs or Baronies inside the OSM database. For > example, it might be possible for the renderer of the (really helpful) > slippymap at http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html to add > the extra text automatically, or perhaps the fonts / colours / > hatching could be tweaked. > > I suggest approaching it from this point of view so we can stick to > the OSM convention of capturing the "what" just the once, in the other > tags only. As well as reducing effort, text, duplication, possibility > of mistakes, it also allows names to be queried automatically as > expected. Forgive the ridiculous examples but if somebody wanted to > analyse how many "things" start with each letter of the alphabet...we > don't want them to have to write an exception for Irish Baronies so > that they start at the 11th character (to skip "Barony of "). Or for > the student who for some reason wants to calculate the average length > of names of things in OSM, we don't want them to have to subtract 13 > when it comes to length of names of " Civil Parish". > > Just my 2 cents. Thanks for listening, and thanks to everyone who is > contributing to the townlanding project. > - John. > > On 2 December 2014 at 10:00, Brian Hollinshead <[email protected]> > wrote: > > In County Carlow there is Rathvilly Town, and ED and Civil Parish and > > Barony. Having an interest in Historical boundaries as well as their > > relevance for genealogy I printed out an A1 map of County Carlow with > > townlands and Civil parishes and Baronies. > > > > Even though the barony names were in a different font size and colour I > > felt it would be more friendly to anyone reading the map to prefix > > Barony of to each barony name where I had not remembered to. I may also > > have strayed into PJNAs wexford with the same in mind. (Sorry PJ) > > > > Maybe we could reach a gentle consensus as to how to approach this, I > look > > forward to your views. We already include ED and Civil Parish in their > > titles. I wonder if we are going to include Barony of whether the > > preset magician Donal can prepopulate the name box? No hardship if he > can't. > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk-ie Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3 > ************************************** > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
