Can someone remove me from this... On 15 Jan 2015 12:02, <[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Meath field names > (Killyfole and District Development Assocation) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:52:58 +0000 > From: Dave Corley <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland > <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets > Message-ID: > < > cahwd_aem4p0xjrw2r5dp0aapiv_-nw4qj++lc7-qucche+g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Folks, > > tl;dr - go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland and complete > the survey to get the Irish govt to open up more geo data for us to use > with open licences > > I want to make you aware of a survey being run by Dept. of Public > Enterprise and Reform. For those not aware, it is this dept which is > responsible for driving the open data process in govt. They have done some > good work so far on data.gov.ie which has something like 500 datasets so > far. Granted most are not compliant in formats or are not of any value, but > it is a good start. > > Part of the next step is asking the public what data is considered high > value as this is what they will focus on releasing next (where possible). > With this is mind they are running at survey at > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland which I would like to ask > as > many of you as possible to complete. > > They will ask for personal details and I was a bit hesitant at first, but > then realised the govt has all my personal details already. > > I was in the process of completing the survey and ranked geospatial data as > my number 1 choice in question 3. In question 5 it asks you to list 5 > datasets that you would consider high value. I put the following: > > * Full & accurate boundary data for all boundaries in Ireland (coastline, > counties, townlands, towns, cities, etc) released as shapefiles > * Full set of roads shapefile to include all associated attribute data > (speed limit, road classification, name, reference number e.g. N17 etc) > * Building footprint shapefile for all buildings in Ireland including > related attribute data (building type (house, apartment etc), address, age > built etc) > * Shapefile of all historic monuments and site in Ireland including all > related attribute data (name, feature type, age, etc) > * Full release of Eircode post code data points for all of Ireland > > Feel free to copy or add your own > > The survey took about 10 mins to complete and only contains 12 questions in > total so I would urge you all to take a few mins to complete it, you never > know, it could lead to a load of OSi & other useful data being opened up > that we can use > > Thanks, > Dave > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:25:20 +0100 > From: Rory McCann <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Dave, > > That's a great idea. I've filled it in there, and would hope that > everyone will do it too. Like you I listed some ideal data sets. We'll > see what happens. > > re: Historic Monuments, there are shapefiles available for the > Archeological Survey of Ireland from the National Monuments Serice. You > can download the shapefiles here > http://www.archaeology.ie/archaeological-survey-ireland *but* the > copyright is closed. Only non-commerical usage etc. > > Rory > > > On 14/01/15 16:52, Dave Corley wrote: > > Folks, > > > > tl;dr - go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland and > > complete the survey to get the Irish govt to open up more geo data > > for us to use with open licences > > > > I want to make you aware of a survey being run by Dept. of Public > > Enterprise and Reform. For those not aware, it is this dept which > > is responsible for driving the open data process in govt. They have > > done some good work so far on data.gov.ie which has something like > > 500 datasets so far. Granted most are not compliant in formats or > > are not of any value, but it is a good start. > > > > Part of the next step is asking the public what data is considered > > high value as this is what they will focus on releasing next (where > > possible). With this is mind they are running at survey at > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland which I would like > > to ask as many of you as possible to complete. > > > > They will ask for personal details and I was a bit hesitant at > > first, but then realised the govt has all my personal details > > already. > > > > I was in the process of completing the survey and ranked geospatial > > data as my number 1 choice in question 3. In question 5 it asks you > > to list 5 datasets that you would consider high value. I put the > > following: > > > > * Full & accurate boundary data for all boundaries in Ireland > > (coastline, counties, townlands, towns, cities, etc) released as > > shapefiles * Full set of roads shapefile to include all associated > > attribute data (speed limit, road classification, name, reference > > number e.g. N17 etc) * Building footprint shapefile for all > > buildings in Ireland including related attribute data (building > > type (house, apartment etc), address, age built etc) * Shapefile of > > all historic monuments and site in Ireland including all related > > attribute data (name, feature type, age, etc) * Full release of > > Eircode post code data points for all of Ireland > > > > Feel free to copy or add your own > > > > The survey took about 10 mins to complete and only contains 12 > > questions in total so I would urge you all to take a few mins to > > complete it, you never know, it could lead to a load of OSi & other > > useful data being opened up that we can use > > > > Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUtrSPAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2i44H/3BMMn6UtouIf86iQXE3sl1K > MQxlyDXDqckO3gKZbjN/SPf5wIpL+3YJxeiLnBrMM/RR/76K4hqgpyos8iIfrDPM > lf+RXGqKg4MvW9tFGfiPRIf/i59+cd5mYiokiER7WqOpLjCMnm0X7WRgd99cmdWx > 7+T4VqLxoXx7xGXeW11DOR3PuiiuxiYWrB6OjaRxTt9yn3GgnF67gG2g6nXAVDm4 > qcnNunWI+BB3xNxyUlQEaOGA/Ml0vNmEBXeSPww6iSIhmz7i0M8DqKUZaU0XGpYJ > cXtEdNqgvZmZZn9r8cxKYf2wqkBJMBZg9FsA4vtnRbRBylok4ksnB2JGL4bFU5k= > =l4gS > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:48:53 +0100 > From: Rory McCann <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meath field names > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/01/15 15:37, Brian Prangle wrote: > > I came across this project last week > > http://www.meathfieldnames.com/ which is a voluntary effort > > identifying field names. So far they've collected about 24,000. > > Impressive > > > > Even more impressive is that their intractive map uses OSM > > > > Two things emerge > > > > 1.They're using OSM without attribution ( or it's so cleverly > > hidden I couldn't find it) so someone needs to contact them to > > correct this > > > > 2. Would it be useful to ask them if we could import their data? > > > > Regards > > > > Brian > > Hi, > > Interesting find! And truly a pretty impressive undertaking. Mapping > all the townlands in a county is hard, to go to the next level and add > fields as well! And then to go even further and add in lots of > metadata about the fields (names/owners/natural features), is > certainly a very impressive feat! > > If you zoom in very carefully, you can see their townland borders > don't quite match OSM's so it's not using OSM data for townlands. We > only have a third of Meath covered anyway. Since they are only > displaying their data on top of OSM, there is no licence issues. > > How they created it makes for interesting reading[1], they have mapped > the townlands and fields from scratch from their own copies of the old > maps: > > > it was decided to consult with various agencies to establish if > > any of them might have data sets already available with fields in > > Meath already digitised. The project consulted with Ordnance > > Survey Ireland, The Property Registration Authority (formerly Land > > Registry) and the Department of Agriculture. > > > > After considerable research, it was found that none of these > > bodies had a suitable dataset that they were prepared to make > > available to Meath Field Names Project. > > I wonder what was wrong with the OSi data? > > They then contracted Mallon Technologies to trace their old maps to > get the vector townlands, and that was done in 1-2 months. Not bad! > > Nevertheless, we should definitely contact them and tell them about > OSM, what we're doing, and see if they would be interested in sharing > their data. Likewise Mallon Technologies. I can do that. > > > Rory > > > [1] http://www.meathfieldnames.com/index.php/database-and-mapping > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUtsghAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2aqYH/0cTFa2sS5+JaqQaeE4xjYdq > 5XGxdl7eHlGbNY/+MFId69XFJ4JFlF9U81g+hv9h/QbcphhB5k4xgLkUdNtOklmt > A/H87KwduRmXO0kUPy8hM3W7KeIgW24LXKxRmVM9gzku4lqhAaL+7ofdUDMsZ8i8 > r2NUO6iSxrMSAPoSEtkQVCXtNK+j4v2T58w7wC3oONt7lW2cgEO71CVz8vvJl9eD > eLm0NM7uTqSDoIWTjs7h8dOqsjEeZC49h3qO+xXfLxo+Qg79mWcfhI03h87ZKpnD > eBaP9OYjFHjn/jLNezJn92j06LTYotp4PVlJVaPRzQjViExYo1FZyONne8zaUxw= > =FVsM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:16:51 +0000 > From: Killyfole and District Development Assocation > <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meath field names > Message-ID: <7380824.EX0xcAmJK5@p500> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Please report back on their response to your questions. I would be > interested > in doing something like this in Fermanagh, but have a few questions on how > they collected the data from the public. I was thinking of approaching > DARD > to directly involve farmers, there might even be EU funding for this kind > of > historical data collection. > > Let us know how you get on! > > On Wednesday 14 Jan 2015 20:48:53 Rory McCann wrote: > > On 04/01/15 15:37, Brian Prangle wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Interesting find! And truly a pretty impressive undertaking. Mapping > > all the townlands in a county is hard, to go to the next level and add > > fields as well! And then to go even further and add in lots of > > metadata about the fields (names/owners/natural features), is > > certainly a very impressive feat! > > > > If you zoom in very carefully, you can see their townland borders > > don't quite match OSM's so it's not using OSM data for townlands. We > > only have a third of Meath covered anyway. Since they are only > > displaying their data on top of OSM, there is no licence issues. > > > > How they created it makes for interesting reading[1], they have mapped > > the townlands and fields from scratch from their own copies of the old > > > > maps: > > > it was decided to consult with various agencies to establish if > > > any of them might have data sets already available with fields in > > > Meath already digitised. The project consulted with Ordnance > > > Survey Ireland, The Property Registration Authority (formerly Land > > > Registry) and the Department of Agriculture. > > > > > > After considerable research, it was found that none of these > > > bodies had a suitable dataset that they were prepared to make > > > available to Meath Field Names Project. > > > > I wonder what was wrong with the OSi data? > > > > They then contracted Mallon Technologies to trace their old maps to > > get the vector townlands, and that was done in 1-2 months. Not bad! > > > > Nevertheless, we should definitely contact them and tell them about > > OSM, what we're doing, and see if they would be interested in sharing > > their data. Likewise Mallon Technologies. I can do that. > > > > > > Rory > > > > > > [1] http://www.meathfieldnames.com/index.php/database-and-mapping > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk-ie Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 > ************************************** > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
