Thanks - Inishfale isn't a townland on the GIS layer I have (maybe an error with that layer?). I wasn't doubting Beggerin was a townland! Just looking for it: I found it on my GIS layer. I can't see the orig OS maps here http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html for the Beggerin Island area. Are they available?
Killian Driscoll Banting Postdoctoral Fellow Département d'anthropologie Université de Montréal umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll www.lithicsireland.ie ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll On 15 May 2015 at 18:25, Donal Diamond <[email protected]> wrote: > You can check the online 1901 townland index (there is also a 1911 > supplement at same site) and see Beggerin Island is listed: > > > http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20%28by%20date%29/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=158 > > Inishfale/Inisfale is probably a townland as ARP and boundary is listed on > the map sheets - it must be an omission from the townland indexes? > > D > > > D > > > On 15 May 2015 at 22:44, Killian Driscoll <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I can't see the orig OS maps here > > http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html > > for the Beggerin Island area. Are they available? > > > > Killian Driscoll > > Banting Postdoctoral Fellow > > Département d'anthropologie > > Université de Montréal > > > > umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll > > www.lithicsireland.ie > > ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll > > > > On 15 May 2015 at 17:36, Killian Driscoll <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > I guess the point is 'Inishfale Island' was never an official townland > > (at > > > least the name doesn't turn up on the online databases, I don't have > > access > > > to the print copy): the sites and monuments record uses 'Inisfale > Island' > > > as the name. Is/was Beggerin Island a townland? > > > > > > Killian Driscoll > > > Banting Postdoctoral Fellow > > > Département d'anthropologie > > > Université de Montréal > > > > > > umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll > > > www.lithicsireland.ie > > > ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll > > > > > > On 15 May 2015 at 17:25, Donal Diamond <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >> On 15 May 2015 at 20:49, Killian Driscoll <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > At the SW side of Lough Allen the pre-drainage scheme lake level > > >> contained > > >> > an island called Inishfale Island with the townland of Derrynadooey > to > > >> the > > >> > west. This contains a national monument RO002-028 ( > > >> > http://webgis.archaeology.ie/NationalMonuments/FlexViewer/) which > is > > >> > listed > > >> > as townland: Inishfale Island; you can see that the map the national > > >> > monuments is using respects the pre-drainage shoreline townland > > outline. > > >> > The traced townland on the osm > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=54.0715&mlon=-8.0517#map=16/54.0715/-8.0517 > > >> > of Derrnadooey now subsumes Inishfale Island, so the official sites > > and > > >> > monuments record (which was incorrect, as there is no such townland > as > > >> > Insihfale Island) now conflicts with the townland name provided by > > osm. > > >> > > > >> > > >> This is resolvable - the island still exists as a townland. > > >> > > >> What you do is: > > >> > > >> 1) Create 'Inishfale Island' townland as normal (with way(s) as role > > >> outer) > > >> 2) add the way(s) of 'Inishfale Island' to Derrnadooey with role > inner, > > >> this creates a hole in Derrnadooey > > >> > > >> For example here's Beggerin Island which was an island before > drainage > > >> created the Slobs in Wexford > > >> > > >> http://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-east/north-west-slob/ > > >> http://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-east/beggerin-island/ > > >> > > >> Hope this helps > > >> > > >> D > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Talk-ie mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
