Stefan de Konink wrote: > > No problem, I wonder who pointed you on this thread anyway. Please > take this text as constructive, it is not intended to be written as > troll, flame or whatever. It is written between 2:45 and 3:30am so... > not the time these mails should be written anyway.
A few questions from the thread were asked on IRC #osm. I followed up. > Will this happen again? Because according to my potential sponsor > counter we are now on 4 potential hardware sponsors, for NL alone. I'd be very happy to chat or be a bridge to the OSMF for potential sponsors. I was not aware of any others. > > ... > > My math system generally is only able to deduce one variable per > equation at the same time. Even if the 2.500 euro's that were left > over were spend on hardware we are not even close to 60%. If you don't > find this /curious/ you might want to tell your users 6k was spend on > legal or travel costs? Things that user group probably doesn't give > anything about. Best to ask OSMF treasurer. As stated in the report, the £3500 spend on hardware in the previous year was low. > > Is this also the case for the Platinum sponsorship? > Slow in paying, yes likely. Don't most companies wait till 89.5 days. ;-) > > Are the PIII servers still connected? If so, we might have a job for > them :) > No, the 2x PIII servers are not currently connected. Let me know what you need them for and I can try get them connected. > > The very simple question is of course: it is known to many that there > is commercial usage of OSM data. I cannot understand and will not take > for granted that only the minor users of OSM are willing to invest > into hardware. Therefor the donation seems like a we (read: OSMF) need > money, and the most easy way is to just ask the users. Yes you are correct. The sysadmin team is getting nervous about the rapidly approaching 0.5->0.6 migration weekend. The OSMF did not have the available funds to purchase the required DB server upgrade. A donation drive was seen as the quickest and easiest option. The community generously supported the donation drive. Over the next few months, I hope to tap commercial users for support in other hardware upgrades. (Assistance always appreciated). I think 2009 is going to be a large growth year for the project. > Now what also was discussed on IRC; I presume this 10k will probably > go to a 0.6 server, leaving other hardware available for other jobs. > Just trowing new hardware to a job that is basically one single point > of failure or performance bottleneck is not really going to help the > users after a new data donation of lets say France or Italy. The 0.6 API / DB has extra consistency checks which opens the doors to additional database servers and replication. The server moving completely to MySQL-InnoDB (or PostgreSQL) also increased the storage requirement beyond the space we currently have. The current DB server is an up-spec'ed desktop machine, it's amazing it has lasted us this long. > Now I sincerely hope OSM gets a freaking Sun X4540, with 64GB* of RAM > and decent 48 disks array. And if someone is really smart, maybe ask > if OSM can get it for free, instead of buying it with this new money. > You can afford it anyway now :) This is my intention. Got any good contacts at Sun or HP? ;-) > > * at this amount of memory, ditching MySQL for something else might be > an option. A lot of work has gone into making the 0.6 API backend compatible with PostgreSQL, unfortunately no promises yet. Maybe 0.601 ? :-) Kind regards Grant _______________________________________________ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
