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On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here's the transcript of our conversation from first to last (while I > was sending him messages he changed his user name fro mgarrucho - > jrizal - rgarchitorena - jjocson - goodbyebacolod:-) ) > > ============== > To jjocson > Subject regarding your edits in Bacolod > Date Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:30:53 +0000 > > jrizal, > > Hi! I've seen your edits in Bacaolod and they are really great. I am > happy to see that Openstreetmap Philippine data is expanding to the > Negros Island. However, I noticed that your contributions have a > striking similarity to GoogleMaps' data. See this and use the slider > on the top-right: > http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=13&lat=10.65976&lon=122.97031&layers=B00000TFFFFF > > As far as I know the only gps tracks in Bacolod are the ones I > uploaded months ago. > > Apologies if this may seem "too accusing" but please explain the > sources of your contributions. > > Thanks! > > maning > > ===================== > > You mean your the only one who has a gps in bacolod???? Anyways they > are maps and for sure they would look similar right. I got it from > NASA. > > jrizal > > ============= > > To jjocson > Subject Re: regarding your edits in Bacolod > Date Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:04:47 +0000 > > > On Fri Feb 26 07:47:03 UTC 2010 rgarchitorena wrote: > >> You mean your the only one who has a gps in bacolod???? > No, what I mean here are the only gps traces uploaded in OSM I know > are some of the traces I added (donated by other contributors). > >>Anyways they are maps and for sure they would look similar right. I got it >>from NASA. > > Can you explain further what you mean by NASA? I use JOSM as an editor > as well, it would be good if you can share what specific WMS or NASA > imagery you used so that others can use it and improve the data. > > Just in case you didn't know, we are not allowed to copy data from > copyrighted materials (an example is GoogleMaps). Most of NASA's > imagery are public domain, so if you are using NASA's data that is OK. > But we need to explicitly provide citation/source of information. > > Thanks again! > > ========== > From jjocson > Subject Re: regarding your edits in Bacolod > Date Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:51:15 +0000 > > > Sorry but its personal if you want I can sell you the program.... > :-)or perhaps you can give me your details so I can visit you and give > you some lessons. > > ======= > > If the data source is "personal" = not available to the public = not > suitable for OSM. > > Unless the data provider which you say is "NASA" gave explicit > permission to use the images for OSM, I don't think it is right to use > it in OSM. > > No offense my friend, but we want the OSM data to be clean as much as > possible of copyright issues. If you want Bacolod to be in the OSm > map. We can help you do it by gathering GPS tracks. We can lend you a > GPS if you don't own one. > > Keep on mapping. > > ======== > > From jjocson > Subject Re: regarding your edits in Bacolod > Date Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:04:34 +0000 > > > What a conclusion! Why sould I help you with what I'm doing if you got > an attitude. And who the F are you anyway? THE OSM OWNER???? > > On Fri Feb 26 08:56:29 UTC 2010 maning wrote: > > ======== > > And then I sent another reply which I wasn't able to sent because he changed > his username while I was sending it to rgarchitorena. > > ========== > To jjocson > Subject changing usernames in a day > Date Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:34:53 +0000 > > You are a funny guy. You changed you usernames from mgarrucho to > jrizal to rgarchitorena to jjocson. > > I simply asked you to explain your source (which is very similar to > Google's data). I simply followed OSM's guidelines here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#I_think_someone.27s_been_entering_copyrighted_data_-_how_do_we_deal_with_that.3F > > For such cases. I have no resort but to report your edits to the OSM > Foundation Board Members. > > cheers, > > maning > > ============ > > From jjocson > Subject Re: changing usernames in a day > Date Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:44:17 +0000 > > > I dont care mate! do what you have to do. > > ============== > > And then he replied again with a new username > > From goodbyebacolod:-) > Subject Bacolod > Date Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:55:55 +0000 > > > I think we got off with the wrong foot here. Yes your right its > similar to google and in the wsm settings it says NASA and localhost > 8998. Ive been using this for 3 to 4 days and think its fine since its > in the editor. If thats something against ur organization then fine Im > happy to stop it and do as your org says. > > ============ > > My last answer. > > No problem mate! > > We want this map free of copyrighted material as much as possible. > Apologies if you're pissed-off with my inquiry. I am requesting for a > revert of your edits in Bacolod so please don't touch them for the > moment. > > If you own a GPS you can continue editing in any plave you like using > your tracks and local knowledge as reference. > > I'll look into the wms you mentioned. > > ================ > > I propose we report this to the OSMF board and request a revert of all > his edits in Bacolod, including mine because I corrected several > overlapping ways. Please don't manually remove them for now. A full > revert process can do this by the OSM sysads. > > Finally, a note to those who keeps on changing usernames in order to > "hide" your OSM editing history. It doesn't work. OSM has an > internal numeric userid of your account. It doesn't change even if > you changed your username. > > For reference, the Bacolod editor's uid="235287" > > > -- > cheers, > maning > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph