Hi guys,

Just keep on sending ideas and suggestions. We'll be considering these
during tomorrow's Hackday. :-)

Eugene


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Leonard Soriano <banito_pi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Eugene,
>
> Magandang project yan! This is actually important as it can be used not only 
> for recreation purposes but even for search and rescue efforts.
>
> I am thinking, if we could start on a case site like a national park that is 
> frequently visited by  visitors both seasoned and not seasoned climbers. For 
> example Mt. Pulag National Park. Given the traffic it gets the whole year, 
> the benefits of having a gps map of the park complete with trail and 
> waypoints has a very high potential.  For the past years, I was doing trail 
> survey data with the UP Mountaineers and we have covered 
> Ambangeg/Ambaguio/Akiki/ and just recently Tinoc trail.
>
> For those people who might be interested, a DRAFT result of the trail survey 
> can be downloaded from this link:
>
> https://www.yousendit.com/download/MzZFblFKbWdoeVpjR0E9PQ
> password: @MtPNP_Draft
>
> The trails are already in OSM and some of the waypoints.
>
> For the contour data, I do have a digital files based from NAMRIA 1:50K topo 
> maps and if our mappers would want to compile this, I can upload it somewhere 
> for downloads.
>
> Napapanahon itong idea na ito.
>
> --bunny
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 16/2/11, rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
> To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <sea...@gmail.com>
> Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> Received: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 4:18 PM
>
> eugene,
> you got my point exactly!
> been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm was 
> trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very useful 
> particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the gps but i 
> feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps.
> this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the 
> mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these 
> mountains plus trail maps and waypoints.
> i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water 
> source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as 
> landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep on 
> asking "are we there yet?" i can easily say we are about so and so kilometers 
> away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to do this 
> during recent climb to pulag :)
> anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if i 
> can learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :)
> rem
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The
> Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM
> data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data
> (maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth
> from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time).
>
> But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding
> another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for
> selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails
> more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone?
>
> Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of
> targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also
> "expand the market" and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin
> map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the
> base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and
> contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular,
> then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the
> rural and mountainous areas. :-D
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also have
> > the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can consolidate
> > the two. in maning's page (http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin)
> > there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but the
> > note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered.
> > maybe, we can, put osm map for the whole country, and then put contour maps
> > for special places/mountains like apo, kanlaon, pulag, mayon, et.al. im not
> > sure how this can be implemented but maybe, just maybe there is a way to put
> > contour maps (just for certain areas where it can be useful) with street
> > maps from osm.
> > this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and
> > enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed.
> > just a suggestion guys :)
> >
> > --
> > Rem Zamora
> > 0916-55-11-407

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