Yup, both offmap 2 and the original offmap uses OSM and Cloudmade (w/c is also OSM-based) tiles
On Sunday, September 16, 2012, samuel cruz wrote: > hi, > > i just learned from a friend that ipad has an application, the offmap 2 > that uses odm map for philippines. not sure about this but maybe someone > can confirm this. > > sam > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>" > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:00 PM > *Subject:* talk-ph Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15 > > Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk-ph digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: SOTM 2012 feedback (Eugene Alvin Villar) > 2. Re: iOS 6 using osm and tomtom? (maning sambale) > 3. Re: SOTM 2012 feedback (maning sambale) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:16:41 +0800 > From: Eugene Alvin Villar <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > To: Michael Collinson <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > Cc: [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2012 feedback > Message-ID: > > <CAPhqi6JhG7UOKev=ogrj18hgmo9t03+dovqgsd37wlczz-v...@mail.gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Mike, > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Michael Collinson > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> > wrote: > > 1) Reducing latency for general mapping for as many Filipinos as > possible. > > > > It looks as though all Philippine mapper's traffic would get routed > through > > a network in or around Metro Manila no matter what. Therefore from a > > latency point of view alone, and assuming PLDT routing, um, > peculiarities, > > could be resolved then Manila would be the best place to put a server. A > > close second would be Hong Kong ... and might be better as per Eugene's > > point. > > This reason suggests that latency is a big problem for editors in the > Philippines. I daresay that latency is not that big a problem when > compared to the broadband average speed of household connections in > the country. Most households, when they have broadband connections at > all, have an average maximum speed of around 1 Mbps. Actual speeds are > much less than that. > > I did a ping to the OSM server from my home and I get around 400ms in > terms of latency. But when you're editing in JOSM and downloading > plenty of data, and especially if you also download GPS points too, > the download and upload of data takes several seconds. And once the > data is downloaded, JOSM will spend some time to parse the OSM XML > data and to process it for editing, and this depends on the speed of > one's computer. Given that kind of editing situation, latency is a > small problem and might not be a best target for improvement. (See > Amdahl's Law[1].) > > On the other hand, setting up a server in HK would also serve many > Asian OSM communities like Japan and Indonesia. While this does not > specifically target the OSMPH community, and might not foster a > technical community, serving the Asian OSM communities might be a > better reason for the investment than simply trying to solve network > latency problems. > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:43:26 +0800 > From: maning sambale <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> > To: tutubi <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > Cc: "[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>" <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');> > > > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] iOS 6 using osm and tomtom? > Message-ID: > > <capzumue3u0k5-80gyxjrniixesvdohznv5ue8e0+ovdgubz...@mail.gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I also recommend osmand for android it supports: > > - offline map and routing > - voice activated routing > - gps log record and direct upload to osm > - point edits to osm > > Maning Sambale (mobile) > On Sep 15, 2012 1:42 PM, "tutubi" > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > wrote: > > > > > hi! > > > > On Sep 15, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Jim Morgan > > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> > wrote: > > > > > > Did we have this conversation before? > > > > oh yes, sort of, but what was discussed even a few days ago is obsolete > > now. cant cope up. > > > > tried a few apps eg myTracks et al but im too lazy to download the gpx > > tracks > > > > > :-) This is all available on Android, although not in the same app as > > far as I can find out. You can get a nice cheap Android for about 9k > these > > days (the Huawei G300 is getting good reviews), or 4k if you really push > it > > (Cherry Mobile). I use Trekbuddy for OSM data with offline maps and 1s > > logging. You can run a different app for routing. At the same time if you > > want > > an android is a long time want. only reconsidering it since i've lost my > > garmin. will try the cherry mobile. i want one with a tv if there's one > and > > it wont hurt much if i lose it :) > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I don't see any reason to drop 40k on the latest Apple. Paying > > more for a phone than a computer has always seemed a little obscene to > me. > > > > > > > > > > i got an iPhone 4s as a gift, didnt buy it :) no plan to upgrade, i'm a > > peso-pincher i only need a handy camera. it will be with me til it conks > > out or lose it > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk-ph mailing list > > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/attachments/20120915/f29fbcd5/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:08:24 +0800 > From: maning sambale <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> > To: Michael Collinson <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > Cc: osm-ph <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2012 feedback > Message-ID: > > <CAPzumuEO28AiYUrj=xhlyjqu5doewd_dxxzfvbsqg6-45pn...@mail.gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If data editing latency is not a big problem, perhaps we can use a high > capacity server for other things. > > >From a data consumer POV, maybe we can: > - create a map style that incorporate PH specific tags that are not shown > in the default osm map (osm-jp's case); > - provide province/municipal extracts in various format like shapefile that > also include ph specific tags (not entirely sure, but I think HOT in > Indonesia did it); > - reliable gps map download; > - imagery server (we currently access some imagery from jgc also of > osm-fr); > - sandbox server for many ideas discussed here. > > @mike, do you think this is something osm-fr can support? > > Maning Sambale (mobile) > On Sep 14, 2012 11:24 PM, "Michael Collinson" > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');>> > wrote: > > > Hallo Maning and all and to Mario Baras who was at SOTM 2012 and is on > > this list. > > > > I see from Maning's post to the general talk list that he is already > > familar with the French http://live.openstreetmap.fr/. Now here is an > > interesting thing. OSM France have also built and are operating a > caching > > download/proxy upload server for editing. It down loads diffs every > > minute. JOSM users can re-direct their editors to use it instead of the > > London server. There is also a way to trick Potlatch into using it. For > > French and many European users it provides much better response. When you > > upload, then it sends your edit to London. It has been running for 6 > months > > and appears to work correctly. > > > > And then another thing: OpenStreetMap France also have funding to do > > things. But they cannot spend it in France. Dot, dot, dot. > > > > So I asked Christian Quest, "If there was interest, could they fund a > > similar server in the Philippines?" and got a very positive response with > > the caveat that a proposal has to be presented to the funding > organisation > > and they can say yes or no. The proposal could consist of a) server(s), > b) > > travel by OpenStreetMap France to the Philippines to train (perhaps not > > vital but good to create a working relationship) and c) funding to put it > > in a high availability data centre. > > > > So, any interest? > > > > In addition to helping poor connections (comments?), I see it as a way to > > build up a strong system administration team to complement the mapping > > community. The Philippine and Japan communities are probably the > strongest > > in Asia right now. I would also suggest that it could be used as a H.O.T > > server to be used in natural calamities if anyone is interested in > getting > > involved there ... that might also improve the chances of funding. > > > > Mike > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > talk-ph mailing list > > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ph< > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/attachments/20120915/128c60cb/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > talk-ph mailing list > [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > End of talk-ph Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15 > *************************************** > > >
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