On 9 Jul 2009, at 10:39, Frankie Roberto wrote:

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Richard Mann <[email protected] > wrote:

You went off-liste

Dammit. Can we change the reply-to settings? (or has that debate been done to death already?)

I am happy to change the settings for this list, but then it will be different from most other lists. Lets have a poll and follow the majority. I will stay neutral!

Btw, could a couple of people also offer to be admins for the list and get to see all the exciting spam offers (of the normal limited variety!) and ban the posters of these messages, oh, and also very occasionally spot a genuine post. To give you an idea of the size of the problem we get about 1 spam message a day.


Regards,


Peter



I'd think I'd propose an alternative service such as service=heritage (or stick with service=regional):
type=line
line=rail
service=heritage
ref=abbreviated name of railway (it's not like there's going to be more than one service on the line)

Hmm, looks like I have some re-tagging to do then (after having nearly completed the list at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Independent_and_minor_railways) .

Is there any sense to having a route relation AND a line relation on these types of railways?

Frankie


Richard


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Frankie Roberto <[email protected] > wrote:
Richard Mann wrote:

The public transport schema says we should be tagging rail service relations as:

No route tag
line=rail
service = high_speed / long_distance / regional / commuter
ref = service reference
nat_ref = national timetable reference

Could anyone offer guidance on how this applies to 'heritage' railways? eg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/162879 and those listed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Independent_and_minor_railways

Some of the things I've noted:

* The "routes" (in terms of the the route of the actual trains) usually match 1 to 1 with the physical "line", except: * Sometimes the operational line extends beyond the final train station, but trains either don't use that section, or do use these sections, and simply travel to the end of the operational line, stop (but don't let passengers on or off) and then travel back again. * Some of the railways have sidings / train sheds mapped - these can be considered part of the overall railway, but aren't part of the route that passengers experience.

Any thoughts?

I've also used railway=heritage on some of the relations, as I think this could be more descriptive than railway=preserved (as sometimes the heritage lines operate on newly-built lines/diversions, rather than the exact historical old lines).

Frankie

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Frankie Roberto
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0114 2706977
http://www.rattlecentral.com

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