On 1 Sep 2009, at 23:49, Jason Cunningham wrote:
Hi,
I've noticed the same problem with Anerley. Digging around my memory
and looking at the TFL website confirms what I thought the problem
was. A few years ago a resting place/bus station was built next to
Anerley Station for bus drivers, a couple of nearby Bus Routes were
extended to Anerley Station, and other buses that finish nearby in
Penge use it a a resting place. As a result was a change in the
number and locations of Bus Stops, and their reference code thing.
The result is available to see on the TFL website. If you look for
the bus maps they have available for the Anerley area, they provide
two relevant maps. The out of date Anerley map, and the new Anerley
Station map [link]. And its far more complex than those maps show as
bus stops off the main map areas are affected. Obviously I cant use
these maps to sort the problem out because of copyright, but even if
we were allowed to they wouldn't be of any use!
Adding the Naptan imports to this problem has created a kind of OSM
Soduku puzzle in Anerley. I tried to have look this afternoon but
gave in fairly quickly
I have had a look at the area, and many of the merges of NaPTAN and
existing seem pretty straightforward where there are two stops close
to each other, one being NaPTAN the other not. Would it be appropriate
to merge the stops where there is no big issue first. Most of the ones
around here seem ok:-
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4084987342358&lon=-0.0607118010520935&zoom=17
I agree that the area around the station is more tricky given that
they have moved and renamed stops and will need a site visit.
Interesting that you found before and after maps on the TfL site as
evidence!
Btw, I like the way you have done the platforms as linear ways which
the render nicely. I have just replicated that in Ipswich. I did tweek
Anerley station a bit to get the bottom of the steps to join the
platform btw, I assume that I was correct in my assumption.
Regards,
Peter
Jason Cunningham
user:jamicu
Roger Slevin wrote:
>On 22/08/09 Shaun McDonald wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>On On the way home last night I done a little checking of the bus
stops.
>>The 6 bus stops outside Brixton Station look good. There is a little
>>bit of work to tidy up some of the old data. I also noticed a road
>>that should be one way and needs to be fixed. Hopefully I'll
remember
>>to do this when osm.org comes back online.
>>
>>Then around Anerley Station I noticed that all the local references
>>were different. I think they might be been changed recently (some
>>point in the past year and a bit) from 2 character references to
>>single character reference, as I remember surveying one or two of
>>them. Is this just an issue with out of date data in NAPTAN, or is
>>there some other problem?
>>
>>Shaun
>
>Shaun
>
>Almost certainly a breakdown in communication between London Buses
and TfL,
>so the change in stop refs has not been copied across to NaPTAN.
But if you
>can let me have the AtcoCode values for the stops concerned (and
what they
>are now showing as stop "indicators") I can try to check this out
with TfL.
>Please send this to [email protected]
>
>Thanks
>
>Roger
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