On 4 Nov 2009, at 07:56, Sam Vekemans wrote:

> Hi all,
> if any of you are on the talk-ca list, you might have seen that the
> city of Toronto opened up their data, and TTC info is in there.
>
> Does anyone have a clear method/approach that worked for dealing  
> with the data?
> Is it better to have scheduals embedded in the stop? & a route  
> relation?
> -is there a standard tagging method?
> -or is it better to keep the data out of OSM, but just have it as an
> external database layer (considering the complexity & the high rate of
> change)

Great stuff!


I think the general opinion is as follows:

Bus stops - yes please, lets have these in OSM asap so they can be  
matched up nicely with the roads. Ideally there should be a node of  
each point where one can wait for a bus (meaning that there should be  
two nodes when there are stops in either side of the road).

Routes - People are adding these extensively, motivated by www.öpnvkarte.de 
  that will then display them. Other people, particularly public  
transport professionals are concerned that the data will be hard to  
maintain in OSM and changes too often and that it would be better not  
to have in OSM. Personally I think it is inevitable that some route  
data will get put into OSM and that there are also benefits to having  
it there. The best response might be to experiment with automatic  
imports that keep OSM mapped to the current schedules for areas with  
free data.

Schedules - Personally I would resist what I would see as the major  
'mission creep' of trying to add detailed departure times etc to OSM.  
service timings change even more often and I don't believe that the  
data model is appropriate for holding the data, the tools are not good  
at entering the data and the data is unlikely to get undated.

As a starter I  would love to see a project to get all the bus stops  
we can from public sources into OSM.


Regards,


Peter

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