I am quite happy to take details for authorities in the SE, EM and EA regions - and indeed I can act as postbox for comments in other areas (as I will with the list of issues found in London - thanks).
If Richard can point me to any of the Oxford examples, I will check those out. Looking at the raw NaPTAN data right now the only "odd letters" I can see in any common names there are "DEL" (for stops that are also marked as DELeted), PH for a large number of stops near pubs and a few stops which reference a road number (which is not recommended in NaPTAN guidance). Mailing details to roger at travelinesoutheast dot org dot uk would be great - thanks Roger -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 15 December 2009 11:51 AM To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN London bus stop oddities I have contacted the local council for both Hull and East Yorkshire to ask if they were interested in what we find as we verify the NaPTAN stops, and both are. You could ask the council or authority concerned if they want any feedback. I started by sending an email to the general contact point for the council and ended up talking to the relevant person in each council. They were both friendly and interested. I have sent the completed list to Hull as a spreadsheet. We are working through the stops in East Yorks and will do the same. We record any anomalies in a note=* tag. AndrewArm has developed a database and reporting system to extract the details and produce a CSV file to import into a spreadsheet to send to the council when we have finished. The council liked the idea of spreadsheets rather than any other form of data. We record stops that are missing, wrongly placed, have the wrong bearing, have the wrong AtcoCode, have the wrong street name, have the AtcoCode missing and any other anomaly, including wrong names and landmarks. We have offered to give the lon, lat of stops that we think are wrongly placed. We don't change any NaPTAN: fields, except verified. Stops here don't have names on usually, but I would change the name=* tag to match a name on a stop if there was one. I am confident that our feedback will improve the NaPTAN data from both councils, maybe other councils might like to join in. It does open up another front to talk to councils about OSM too. Cheers, Chris Richard Mann wrote: > I've found quite a few like this (in Oxford). I just change the name > tag to what's on the stop, and put the stop letter in local_ref. I've > never yet found one where the indicator letter was actually part of > the stop name. > > It's up to the Naptan experts to extract any differences (between name > and naptan:commonname) and decide whether/when to update Naptan > accordingly. > > Richard > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Bryce McKinlay <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > In the London NaPTAN data I have found some groups of stops that seem > to have indicator letters appended to the stop name. I think this is > erroneous as, as far as I know, these extra letters do not appear on > any timetables or signs. A list follows. Perhaps someone can forward > this to the appropriate upstream agency for correction. > > Acton Old Town Hall F G > Acton Old Town Hall K L > Beckenham Junction Stn C D > Bow Church E G J K L > Bromley By Bow Station W > Bunkers HillThe White Cross N > Bunkers HillThe White Cross S > Camberwell Green E F > Camden High Street E J > Carterhatch Lane N > Chislehurst War Memorial R S T > Clapham Common Station A B > Clapham Common Station C R > Colliers Wood Station B > Colliers Wood Station C > Ealing Hospital R S U > Ealing Hospital T > Edmonton Green Station R S > Gipsy Corner O P > Gipsy Corner R S T > Greenford Station B > Grove Park Station G > Hammersmith Bus Station Y Z > Harrow Town Centre L M > Harrow Town Centre R T > Herne Hill D E > Ilford Station D > Kings Crescent Estate J > Kings Crescent Estate K U > Lea Bridge Roundabout B > Lea Bridge Roundabout E L M > Leytonstone Station A B C > Mill Hill Broadway Station F > MoorgateFinsbury Sq C D K > MoorgateFinsbury Sq F G H J > Muswell Hill Broadway A B > Muswell Hill Broadway C D > Muswell Hill Broadway E F H > North FinchleyTally Ho Co D I > North FinchleyTally Ho Co K Z > Northwood Hills Circus C > Northwood Hills Circus E > Northwood Hills Circus K J > Notting Hill Gate Station B C > Notting Hill Gate Station D E > Notting Hill Gate Station M N > Old Street Station C > Old Street Station M N > Oxford Circus E R X > Pinner Station C E > Prince of Wales Road N > Putney Bridge Station U > Romford Station L > South Harrow Station A B > Southside Shopping Centre S N > Swiss Cottage Station L M > Tally Ho Corner K > Tolworth Broadway F G > Tooting Broadway Station B > Turnpike Lane Station U Y > Upminster Station B C > William Ellis School F > William Ellis School M > Wood Green Bus Garage C > > Also, in Lewisham there seems to be two "Dartmouth Hill" stops listed > both with the indicator "H"? > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > _______________________________________________ Talk-transit mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit _______________________________________________ Talk-transit mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
