Two things. First, I received permission from the Transit Manager at Yuba- Sutter Transit, but would it be proper for me to wait for an exact license?
Secondly, does GO-Sync support the Public Transport approved proposal? I've already done most of the routes there, using that schema, and I'd prefer not to have to redo them. -Alexander Barbeau, Sean wrote: > Alexander, > I'm not sure of the exact project you're working on, but if it involves > importing GTFS datasets into OSM you might want to check out an > open-source tool GO-Sync that we created last year: > http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ > > In addition to a bulk import of GTFS into OSM, this tool also has the > ability to try and sync bus stop changes in OSM with a GTFS dataset, in an > attempt to grab crowd-sourced improvements to the bus stop inventory back > for the agency. This tool is currently mainly for bus stops, though, and > not the relations for routes on OSM streets. We've stayed away from > trying to automatically sync route relations on roads since this is > complex and requires significant manual inspection to ensure the data is > coded correctly. Relations for bus stops and their memberships in routes, > though, is handled in GO-Sync. > > Our project that focused on the creation of this tool has ended, but we > certainly hope the community will continue to benefit from it, and build > on top of it if possible. > > I agree that the individual transit agencies need to provide permissions > for the OSM upload, if they are the ones that own the GTFS data. Before > we did any imports with GO-Sync, we obtained permission from the agency. > > Sean > > Sean Barbeau > Center for Urban Transportation Research > University of South Florida > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 15, > 2012 8:01 AM To: [email protected] > Subject: Talk-transit Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4 > > Send Talk-transit mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Talk-transit digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Re: OpenStreetMap (Alexander Jones) > 2. Re: Fwd: Re: OpenStreetMap (Peter J Stoner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:48:02 -0500 > From: Alexander Jones <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Talk-transit] Fwd: Re: OpenStreetMap > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I got this email in response to one that I had sent. It has to do with > GTFS data that we could possibly use in OSM. As you can see, the company > responsible for creating the data is supportive of the idea, but noted > that it is up to the individual transit providers to license the data. > Tell me what you think. > > And I know that OSM isn't a "Wikipedia for mapping", but the differences > probably aren't significant to people not involved directly with both. > > -Alexander > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Re: OpenStreetMap > Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 10:29:45 > From: Aaron Antrim <[email protected]> > To: Alexander Jones <[email protected]> > CC: Keith Martin <[email protected]> > > > Hi Alexander, > Thank you for your email. Trillium does not have rights to license Yuba- > Sutter Transit GTFS data. Those rights are for the Yuba-Sutter Transit to > assign. The agency has chosen to make their data public, however without > a license: http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/agency/yuba-sutter-transit/ > I'd encourage the data to be integrated with OSM. > Trillium works for many other public transit agencies, most of which have > public GTFS data. I'd be happy to encourage those agencies to integrated > their data in OSM. Let me know how I can help make this happen. > Competition, options, and open data are good for everyone. Cheers, Aaron > -- Aaron Antrim > Trillium Solutions, Inc. > www.trilliumtransit.com > Portland, Oregon > 503.567.8422 > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Alexander Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello, my name is Alexander Jones, and I am a member of the > volunteer-mapping project, OpenStreetMap. Think of as like a Wikipedia > for mapping. > > I have been in contact with Yuba-Sutter Transit, about the possibility of > using its/your bus stop data for the OSM project. The Transit Manager > there told me to contact you about this. > > My question is: under what license would you be willing to license your > data under? Allowable terms would be similar to Wikipedia, in that only > freely- usable data is accepted for inclusion. > > This could be a huge opportunity for you, as big names such as FourSquare > and Apple are making the switch to OpenStreetMap data. > > My contact email is happy5214 <at> gmail.com, and I am available anytime > except for 1200 to 1900 Central Time, when I am actually sleeping. > > Thank you, > Alexander Jones > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk- transit/attachments/20120315/c59aed28/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:37:19 GMT > From: Peter J Stoner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Fwd: Re: OpenStreetMap > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > You may be interested to know that in the UK the government working with > Traveline are proposing to make all bus timetables open data in April > 2012. http://travelinedata.org.uk/opendata.htm > > > In message <[email protected]> > Alexander Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I got this email in response to one that I had sent. It has to do with >> GTFS data that we could possibly use in OSM. As you can see, the >> company responsible for creating the data is supportive of the idea, >> but noted that it is up to the individual transit providers to license >> the data. Tell me what you think. > >> And I know that OSM isn't a "Wikipedia for mapping", but the >> differences probably aren't significant to people not involved directly >> with both. > >> -Alexander > > >> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > >> Subject: Re: OpenStreetMap >> Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 10:29:45 >> From: Aaron Antrim <[email protected]> >> To: Alexander Jones <[email protected]> >> CC: Keith Martin <[email protected]> > > >> Hi Alexander, >> Thank you for your email. Trillium does not have rights to license >> Yuba- Sutter Transit GTFS data. Those rights are for the Yuba-Sutter >> Transit to assign. The agency has chosen to make their data public, >> however without a >> license: http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/agency/yuba-sutter-transit/ >> I'd encourage the data to be integrated with OSM. >> Trillium works for many other public transit agencies, most of which >> have public GTFS data. I'd be happy to encourage those agencies to >> integrated their data in OSM. Let me know how I can help make this >> happen. Competition, >> options, and open data are good for everyone. >> Cheers, >> Aaron > > > -- > Peter J Stoner > UK Coordinator http://travelinedata.org.uk > Traveline > > Traveline Information Ltd company number 3826797 Drury House, 34-43 > Russell Street, LONDON WC2B 5HA ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > > > End of Talk-transit Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4 > ******************************************* _______________________________________________ Talk-transit mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
