Sean, it would be interesting to know whether GO-Sync's processing includes the GTFS route shapes (the exact vehicle paths stored in shapes.txt) in any way. For example: if the GTFS feed only covers the location / attributes of stations and is missing shapes.txt information, does GO-Sync try to extract these shapes from OSM data? If so, what approach do you use? How are existing shapes compared to data already existent in OSM?

Many public transport companies have very good data regarding the position of their stops, but lack the exact paths vehicles take between succeeding stations. In my opinion, providing not only the possibility to extract these shapes from existing OSM data but also the tools to edit them via OSM would dramatically increase the geospatial quality of many GTFS feeds.

I just browsed GO-Sync's paper and couldn't find anything relating to this problem. Are there any future plans to include the functionality described above?

Thank you!

Best regards

Patrick Brosi

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On 03/04/14 16:47, Barbeau, Sean wrote:
As part of a research project
<http://www.locationaware.usf.edu/ongoing-research/projects/open-transit-data/>
in 2011, we developed GO-Sync an open-source tool to synchronize bus
stop data between a GTFS dataset and OSM:

https://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/

The main idea was to help the transit agency improve the accuracy of bus
stop geocoding, and amenity catalog, by crowdsourcing this information.
So, the tool has the ability to diff a GTFS dataset and OSM, and produce
a new GTFS dataset with the merged attributes.  Please feel free to try
it out, and additional contributions would be welcome.

We determined that timetable information wasn’t really well-suited for
storage in OSM directly due to OSM’s lack of relational data support.
Additionally, the information changes fairly frequently (usually at
least quarterly), which means the data would need to be updated
frequently.  If you also try attaching transit service to roads in OSM,
this would mean programmatically updating OSM relations, which seemed
far too error prone.

GTFS is a widely-accepted format for transit data at this point, and in
our opinion relying directly on the GTFS dataset produced by the agency
for timetable and other transit information is the best practice.  This
also implies that any improvements to the information need to be fed
back to the agency for integration into the GTFS dataset, hence the
creation of the GO-Sync tool.

Sean

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