2015-07-01 10:00 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet <[email protected]>: > 2015-07-01 7:38 GMT+02:00 Jo <[email protected]>: >> >> In retrospect public_transport=platform was a misnomer. Maybe we should >> have used public_transport=pole. >> > A platform can be a pole, or a shelter, or a dock, or a boarding > "platform" for a train... It is meant to abstract differences between > different means of transport. >
That's why I tought I was doing all right putting the details of the stop on those public_transport=platform mapped as nodes. When there is an actual platform, I map it separately as a way or an area, which goes into the stop_area relation. > > Anyway, the attempt to clear up the distinction between mapping stops next >> to the road and as a node on the road has failed utterly, now all seems to >> be done twice, which is a total waste of time. >> > The stop_position is where the bus, train, etc. stop on their way, while > the platform is where passengers will be waiting to board. Both features > are distinct and serve different purposes in real life, so why not store > both in OSM ? > I don't mind having both. I do mind putting extra tags like name, ref, operator, network, route_ref, zone on the stop_position nodes. It's enough to have that information once. > > >> My problem is that when I'm adding stops as nodes in Germany and put the >> details on there, those nodes get cleared/removed. I can reinstate them, >> but it won't stick, so it's futile to do so. >> > It seems to be more a problem with toxic mappers more than the PT scheme > They moved the details to the stop_position, which I don't consider for processing. > > >> At some point I thought that starting to include the platform ways to the >> background database would help, but that's not the case if the details are >> mapped on the stop_position nodes. >> > In theory, "redundant" details on the same stop should be put in the > stop_area relation in order to reduce redundancy. > That only works if there is one stop_area relation per direction of travel. At the moment the wiki states to use a stop_area relation for all PT related stuff that is near to each other. I need to relate the platform nodes to the nearby way, sometimes by means of a stop_position node, sometimes with help of a stop_area relation. > > The stop_area relations combine both directions, That's useless. I don't >> know who abolished stop_area_group, But what good are these stop_area >> relations if they don't help to relate an individual platform with a >> stop_position? >> > See above. > > Éric > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > >
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