Google does not make their data available to anyone as far as I know, but the 
basemap tiles are available to "regular Joe Schmoe" in the same form they are 
available to us (i.e. you have to get a free API key). We have no contract at 
all with them.

For ESRI, you have to sign up for an ESRI global account (I think they are 
free, not certain though). That gives "regular Joe Schmoe" the same data access 
we get. I would actually say that this works a little easier than OSM for that 
aspect, since the data is available as shapefiles and other formats. The 
database synchronization obviously requires ESRI software on the receiving end 
though (and permission of the uploader, since you connect to their database for 
the synchronization).

We are interested in the tiles being pushed out, not the actual data. Our data, 
unfortunately, has all sorts of legal landmines that require us to keep track 
of who we release it to (centerlines being one of the exceptions though).

Brett Lord-Castillo
Information Systems Designer/GIS Programmer
St. Louis County Police
Office of Emergency Management
14847 Ladue Bluffs Crossing Drive
Chesterfield, MO 63017
Office: 314-628-5400

Fax: 314-628-5508

Direct: 314-628-5407





From: Ian Dees [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:21 AM
To: Lord-Castillo, Brett
Cc: [email protected] Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Just thought I would add that both the Google and ESRI programs allow for 
community edits, which we can get back out into our systems.
Community BaseMaps even makes the data directly available to end users 
(potentially with database synchronization, so you can get only edits pushed 
out to you nightly).

None of that is available to "regular Joe Schmoe" (my definition of 
"community"), though. I'm sure you have a contract in place ESRI that gives you 
access to the Community Basemaps and a similar contract for Google's setup. 
These contracts prevent your citizens from using the data in the same way that 
OSM would allow them to.


What we want out of our data upload is a publically available common basemap 
that provides an equal base to our enterprise applications and to public mashup 
developers with no mapping experience. What we offer to support that is the 
work of our 20+ cartographers who have direct access to resources that no one 
outside their office has access to.

When you say a basemap, are you describing the actual data or the images that 
would be placed behind mashups or enterprise applications?
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