> > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 08:13:54 -0400 > From: Mike N <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Portland, Oregon & surrounding areas - OSM > mappers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 5/1/2011 2:17 AM, PJ Houser wrote: > > See a sneak preview of the Open Trip Planner, TriMet's new open source > > multi-modal trip planner scheduled for release in Fall, and meet the > > developers involved in the project. > > This is a very interesting project. I recently began mapping and > entering the local bus routes (which even Google doesn't have, courtesy > of our local "closed data" policies). I realized that my work is still > useless to the general community because the OSM doesn't have a way to > enter the schedule, and public transport schedules appear to be unwanted > data. > > Where is the OpenTripPlanner's schedule data stored? Is there any > way to get an early copy of OpenTripPlanner to work with it? > > Thanks, >
Hey Mike, I don't understand what you mean by local closed data policies. Maybe in the past, but not anymore. Portland has some of the most open data policies in the States, or so I've heard. See http://civicapps.org/datasets. Trimet bus routes are freely available to import directly, if you wanted. However, they change a lot, so most trip planners draw that data in separately. Most transit agencies, including Trimet, provide their schedules in a GTFS format (General Transit Feed Specifications). This allows Google and other trip planners to get the most updated schedules regularly. See http://developer.trimet.org/ There are also regularly updated shapefiles available. For Trimet's purposes, OpenTripPlanner will be drawing from three different data sources - OpenStreetMap for a base map, Trimet for route info and scheduling (the GTFS), and an elevation data source. See http://opentripplanner.com/ You can contact OpenPlans yourself for more info on OTP. You can also demo OTP from Trimet http://maps5.trimet.org/otp/. Just keep in mind that OSM is not updated with enough data for walking and bike modes to be accurate. We're still working on that! Hope this helps. Maybe see you at the Meet & Greet? -- PJ Houser Trimet GIS intern, 503-962-5711 (office) On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:27 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Talk-us mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-us digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Portland, Oregon & surrounding areas - OSM mappers (Mike N) > 2. Re: Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 (Dave Hansen) > 3. Re: Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 (Richard Weait) > 4. Re: Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 (Dave Hansen) > 5. Another day, another bad import (Toby Murray) > 6. Re: Another day, another bad import (Mike N) > 7. Re: Another day, another bad import (Toby Murray) > 8. Re: Another day, another bad import (Mike N) > 9. Re: Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 (Richard Weait) > 10. Re: Another day, another bad import (Alan Millar) > 11. Re: Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 (Mike N) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 08:13:54 -0400 > From: Mike N <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Portland, Oregon & surrounding areas - OSM > mappers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 5/1/2011 2:17 AM, PJ Houser wrote: > > See a sneak preview of the Open Trip Planner, TriMet's new open source > > multi-modal trip planner scheduled for release in Fall, and meet the > > developers involved in the project. > > This is a very interesting project. I recently began mapping and > entering the local bus routes (which even Google doesn't have, courtesy > of our local "closed data" policies). I realized that my work is still > useless to the general community because the OSM doesn't have a way to > enter the schedule, and public transport schedules appear to be unwanted > data. > > Where is the OpenTripPlanner's schedule data stored? Is there any > way to get an early copy of OpenTripPlanner to work with it? > > Thanks, > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 09:05:15 -0700 > From: Dave Hansen <[email protected]> > To: Dave Hansen <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 > Message-ID: <1304265915.30823.3.camel@nimitz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 16:59 +0100, Dave Hansen wrote: > > > > These are based off of Lambertus's work here: > > > > http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php > > > > I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a > > large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large > > longitude > > swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. > > > > http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/13-04-2011 > > I had to go update my script a bit since Lambertus's site got moved > around. Please let me know if anyone has trouble with these. > > -- Dave > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:09:35 -0400 > From: Richard Weait <[email protected]> > To: Dave Hansen <[email protected]> > Cc: Dave Hansen <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dave Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> ? ? ? ? http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/13-04-2011 > > > > I had to go update my script a bit since Lambertus's site got moved > > around. ?Please let me know if anyone has trouble with these. > > Empty directory here. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 09:18:04 -0700 > From: Dave Hansen <[email protected]> > To: Richard Weait <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 > Message-ID: <1304266684.30823.6.camel@nimitz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 12:09 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dave Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/13-04-2011 > > > > > > I had to go update my script a bit since Lambertus's site got moved > > > around. Please let me know if anyone has trouble with these. > > > > Empty directory here. > > You're too quick for me! :) > > The script ran but failed, puked, and spit out an email. I'm running it > again right now, and I hoped that it would finish before anyone noticed. > It should be OK now. > > -- Dave > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:25:20 -0500 > From: Toby Murray <[email protected]> > To: talk-us <[email protected]> > Subject: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another > reason to hate imports. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5186568 > > I will contact this user and revert the changeset shortly. > > Dear importers: CHECK YOUR SHIT! > > kthx, > Toby > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:55:03 -0400 > From: Mike N <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/1/2011 1:25 PM, Toby Murray wrote: > > Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another > > reason to hate imports. > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5186568 > > > > I will contact this user and revert the changeset shortly. > > > I didn't look very far, but > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5190419 also looks bad: > old upload, all nodes, an area sampling shows a string of ghost nodes. > There are probably other bad imports there also. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:05:55 -0500 > From: Toby Murray <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Mike N <[email protected]> wrote: > > ?I didn't look very far, but > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5190419 also looks bad: > old > > upload, all nodes, an area sampling shows a string of ghost nodes. ?There > > are probably other bad imports there also. > > Arg! I was planning on taking a look through their changesets later as > well. I have an event to get to right now. I have sent a message to > the user but haven't done any reverting yet. the API seems to be > running kind of slow right now anyway so I'll probably wait until > later tonight to do anything. > > Toby > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 14:14:42 -0400 > From: Mike N <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/1/2011 2:05 PM, Toby Murray wrote: > > Arg! I was planning on taking a look through their changesets later as > > well. I have an event to get to right now. I have sent a message to > > the user but haven't done any reverting yet. the API seems to be > > running kind of slow right now anyway so I'll probably wait until > > later tonight to do anything. > > 5:00PM-11:00PM GMT on Sunday is historically busy* - all the EU > mappers get home from their day / weekend out and are uploading their > work <g> > > * Just my impression; I haven't correlated this to any server load > statistics. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 14:17:49 -0400 > From: Richard Weait <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected] Openstreetmap" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dave Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 12:09 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: > >> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dave Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> ? ? ? ? > http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/13-04-2011 > >> > > >> > I had to go update my script a bit since Lambertus's site got moved > >> > around. ?Please let me know if anyone has trouble with these. > >> > >> Empty directory here. > > > > You're too quick for me! :) > > > > The script ran but failed, puked, and spit out an email. ?I'm running it > > again right now, and I hoped that it would finish before anyone noticed. > > It should be OK now. > > You and Lambertus are both awesome for doing this, among the many > things that you do for the OSM community. Many, many thanks. So many > wonderful people in this community, doing so many interesting things, > and so often sharing. > > Just. Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:23:27 -0700 > From: Alan Millar <[email protected]> > To: Toby Murray <[email protected]> > Cc: talk-us <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On May 1, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Toby Murray wrote: > > Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another > > reason to hate imports. > > Yeah... Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another > reason to hate newbies, too. > > If you are looking for a reason to hate something, it's always easy to find > them. Human nature. > > Perhaps it's not the most constructive outlook, or discussion, to have. > > - Alan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 14:27:46 -0400 > From: Mike N <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > It should be OK now. > > It worked here, the map section I looked at seems normal. Thanks! > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > End of Talk-us Digest, Vol 42, Issue 4 > ************************************** >
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