On Sun, 29 May 2011 01:00:25 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 5/29/2011 12:37 AM, Nathan Mills wrote:
US-441 between St. Cloud and Yeehaw Junction could easily be trunk
by
NE2's definition
Nope, since any through traffic will be on the Turnpike. US 441
serves mainly only local and toll-avoiding traffic, and the latter is
better-off cutting east to I-95 via US 192.
It's actually faster to take 441 to Yeehaw and get on the turnpike
there when traveling from eastern and southeastern Orlando to points
south of Port St. Lucie. Once again, this is a drive I take
semi-regularly. Similarly, from northeast Orlando out to Cocoa, 520 is
faster than slogging all the way down to 528 on 417, although almost
nobody goes that way. (or at least they didn't when I was driving it
somewhat regularly..it's been some years at this point)
On all the roads I've mentioned until this post (exclusive of US-71),
most of the traffic seemed to be local and there was very little
traffic, local or through. So that's not really something you can point
to to say "aha, this should be trunk because it's an important through
route" on the particular roads I'm discussing. I don't claim to know
about roads I haven't personally driven since I haven't actually been on
them. If you can divine from the Internet that a given road has lots of
through traffic, that's fantastic for you.
Speaking of misclassification around Orlando, why on did you make
Alafaya Trail south of Curry Ford primary? Even with the extension
(Innovation way) to 528, it's still mostly local traffic. Curry Ford and
Lake Underhill are much more important (and busy) roads in that part of
Orlando and carry more through traffic. That may change if they ever get
the 2 lane segment 4 laned, but that hasn't happened yet, unless it was
the fastest construction project evar. (I have friends that live in
Stoneybrook whom I visit at least once a year; last time was admittedly
last Christmas. I can only put so many miles on the car every year :P)
On Sun, 29 May 2011 01:16:17 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Try expressway=yes or access_control=partial. But make sure it's an
expressway, not just a four-lane with unlimited driveway access. You
may have to look through DOT records to find out which one it is.
I don't think most road map users care whether it's a literal
expressway in the sense of limited access or not, so long as it is
practically-speaking indistinguishable from an actual limited access
road. This is why I'm agitating for a tag that captures that use. More
technical tagging is, of course, quite welcome, but we need a way to
represent something as basic as this on the map. I think the easiest way
is to use the trunk tag because I don't see the way you're using it as
particularly useful since the same information could be conveyed with
primary, even if a nearby road has to be demoted to secondary, as most
state highways already are or should be, IMO.
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