Thanks everyone who took the time to indicate availability. The best time is Thursday noon MST / 7PM GMT based on response.
Let's meet on IRC. We can hijack #osm-strategic for this meeting (unless we hear otherwise). Use irc.openstreetmap.org or your favorite IRC channel to log on. It would help greatly if everyone who intends to participate would take a moment to think about these questions: * What can we do in the next month / year / 5 years to keep more mappers engaged after they sign up? Think small and big. * What do you want to do yourself to achieve this, and how much time can you spend on it? * What has been attempted before? Did it work? Why (not)? Also, please review the previous meeting log and proposal (see below) and rally others you think should be involved. Talk to you Thursday. Martijn On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > Let me bump this topic - the Welcome Working Group as originally > proposed and kicked off by Richard Weait (proposal here[1], initial > meeting IRC log here[2]) will meet again this coming week. > > Welcome Working Group? Yes. In very broad strokes, this WG will look > at how we can do a better job of courting / retaining mappers who sign > up and never edit or edit only once, never to be heard of again. These > folks have shown an active interest in the project and yet we somehow > don't manage to make sense to them. That's a real shame and we think > there may be ways to do something about this. > > I am proposing some time slots that should work for N-America and > Europe. If you're interested to join this important discussion, please > indicate your availability before 1900 UTC tomorrow by following this > link. > > http://doodle.com/z4rzz66k2nhh5h2d > > Based on the responses I will then determine the best time to meet. > You can then still decide to join of course. > > Martijn > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rw/Proposal:Welcome_Working_Group > [2] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rw/Proposal:Welcome_Working_Group/Initial_meeting_agenda/irclog > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: >> I thought I should bump this up to its own thread: >> >> The Welcome WG needs a boost after Richard's (cc) initial great work >> on the proposal and initial meeting. Let's have a follow-up meeting to >> see who's interested in committing time to this WG, what we can do >> right now and what the longer term agenda and priorities should be. >> >> How about next week? Anyone who has ideas about and - more importantly >> - is willing to spend time towards solving the Welcome >> problem, please join. >> >> http://doodle.com/z4rzz66k2nhh5h2d >> >> We can do it on IRC, Google Hangout (my preference), phone or whatever >> works for all involved. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> >> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM >> Subject: Fwd: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki >> To: OSM US board <us-osm-bo...@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> FYI, I put out an invitation for a Welcome Working Group meeting: >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> >> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki >> To: Kathleen Danielson <kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com> >> Cc: Scott Rollins <organ...@gmail.com>, OpenStreetMap Talk Mailing >> List <t...@openstreetmap.org>, Serge Wroclawski <emac...@gmail.com>, >> Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org>, OpenStreetMap US Talk >> <talk-us@openstreetmap.org>, Richard Weait <rich...@weait.com> >> >> >> Kathleen, >> >> Yes, the Welcome WG does need a boost after Richard's (cc) initial >> great work on the proposal and initial meeting. I wanted to wait until >> the semester is over so that my teaching obligations would not keep >> interfering, but I guess we're almost there, so I am willing to >> organize a next meeting to see who's interested in committing time to >> this WG, what we can do right now and what the longer term agenda and >> priorities should be. >> >> So how about next week? Anyone who has ideas about and - more >> importantly - is willing to spend time towards solving the Welcome >> problem, please join. >> >> http://doodle.com/z4rzz66k2nhh5h2d >> >> We can do it on IRC, Google Hangout (my preference), phone or whatever >> works for all involved. >> >> Martijn >> >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Kathleen Danielson >> <kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Some of these resources may require a >>>> little effort on your part, and they may not all be as well advertised >>>> or interconnected as they should be, but you have to realize that >>>> OpenStreetMap is eternally a work in progress, run entirely by >>>> volunteers who are working really hard to keep up with and channel >>>> that progress. >>> >>> >>> I think that the first half of that sentence is worth taking notice of, with >>> all due respect to the second half (and the volunteers who make it so!). As >>> a newcomer to OSM, I am aware that there are some really fantastic resources >>> out there, but I'm not really sure where to start, and that in and of itself >>> ends up being quite discouraging. Some more direction and encouragement for >>> new users could both help new mappers who share these frustrations, as well >>> as identify highest priority action items for documentation improvement. >>> >>> I gather there's a proposal for a new Welcome Working Group, and I think >>> that this potential group has a lot to offer in this exact area. I 100% >>> understand how experienced users and contributors can feel taxed by >>> discussions like this, but I think there is a subset of members who are >>> eager to help onboard new mappers. Maybe this is a good time to re-kickstart >>> that proposal? Personally, I'm really excited to get involved in this aspect >>> of the OSM community. >>> >>> (apologies if I'm missing any important context/discussions happening >>> elsewhere) >>> >>> Best, >>> Kathleen >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Some of these resources may require a >>>> little effort on your part, and they may not all be as well advertised >>>> or interconnected as they should be, >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Martijn van Exel >> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> http://openstreetmap.us/ >> >> >> -- >> Martijn van Exel >> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> http://openstreetmap.us/ >> >> >> -- >> Martijn van Exel >> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> http://openstreetmap.us/ > > > > -- > Martijn van Exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > http://openstreetmap.us/ -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
