On 6/7/13 9:59 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Given that, I think it's only really useful to discuss whether any specific route merits a proposed tag, with the facts of that situation.
we probably want to see this as a life cycle issue relating to any sort of highway/route situation, not just these cycle routes, and consider what should/can trigger mapping. proposals start out vaguely. at some point, they become concrete enough, e.g. there are actual maps from an official body saying where the proposal runs. at this point, it's ok to map a proposed route, but there are things to consider: 1) concrete proposals can be altered over time 2) even very concrete proposals can be altered in response to new issues 3) proposals may die without being built here is a non-bicycle route example. I 687 was proposed in the Albany NY area in the 50s and 60s. the following link shows official maps from 1957 and 1967. neither was built; the flurry of really bad highway proposals for the area ended in the 1970s, and worst ones were never built. the only thing built for i 687 was the ramp on i 90 which feeds into an office park today: http://www.capitalhighways.8m.com/highways/687i/ additionally, routes can be fluid as anyone who has been doing this for a while should know; highway designations get shifted to different roads more often than we tend to think about. so 1) proposals should not be mapped until they achieve a real measure of concreteness 2) we need to be aware that proposals can shapeshift even after this point 3) once the route is official rather than longer proposed, it can still be moved if the authorities so desire 4) we need to recognize that proposals and even sometimes official routes can go away. this is where i'm confused by the discussion, because i think Kerry is arguing that the vague proposals where there is only a wide corridor should be removed, and i think that's a sound request. the ones that are more concrete can probably stay. richard _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
