On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Serge Wroclawski <emac...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 1. How can someone survey a neighborhood? It seems that in many cases,
> neighborhoods are subjective, and people may disagree on where it is,
> and both be right. How does your proposal address this issue?
>

It's the same as named place nodes. It's something that is important as a
geographical reference point, yet not strictly defined, but locals can
easily agree on where it should be.

>
> 2. If I understand your proposal correctly, you are saying that your
> solution is that nodes, rather than polygons, offer a concept of
> "fuzzyness", that solves some of the subjectiveness issues. But if you
> know the data is "fuzzy" then isn't it also, by definition, then a bit
> wrong as well, since we can't make radius assumptions about
> neighborhoods, and our scale of neighborhood changes so much depending
> on where we're talking about?
>
> I'm not proposing a solution, I'm just contributing to the discussion with
the hopes of reaching a consensus on how to do this, if at all.
The answer to your question is no, the data would not be 'wrong', because
it's what local mappers agree on.


> 3. We already have "issues" with neighborhoods messing up the
> geocoding problems in OSM. If we have lots of new users who are adding
> nodes, won't this just get worse?
>

I don't know of those issues so I can't really answer that.


> 4. Why not agree to use another service for this data other than OSM?
> Or conversely, why not use an existing dataset other than OSM, which
> already contains neighborhoods, such as the Flickr dataset


As far as I am concerned, that could be an option, but the fact is that
there is a place=neighbourhood tag and people are going to use it, and
other people are going to look at the data and go: meh OSM has poor
neighborhood coverage, let's do something about that - and then we'll have
this discussion again.


-- 
Martijn van Exel
http://oegeo.wordpress.com/
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