>>Conclusion: explicit law may already give us permission to use (our) data any way we see fit, simply by asking for them. Read up on >>your state's laws on Public Records, see if there are any court decisions affirming, and armed with this knowledge, ask away. Happy mapping!

Good point. RCFP just published a guide to open government records law for all 50 states, which you can find here here: <http://t.co/bBEWW1H2FG>http://tinyurl.com/m6leum5 The guide is simply the text of state legislation, so you won't find anything in the way of interpretation or application. For that you'd better look closer to home.

In Virginia we have a public records law that places most public records in the public domain, but interestingly (or frustratingly) every jurisdiction in the state asserts copyright over the data. Here is the text of that copyright:

"Information shown on these maps is derived from public records that are constantly undergoing change and do not replace a site survey, and is not warranted for content or accuracy. The County does not guarantee the positional or thematic accuracy of the GIS data. The GIS data or cartographic digital files are not a legal representation of any of the features in which it depicts, and disclaims any assumption of the legal status of which it represents. Data contained on this Web page/site is Copyright © York County, Virginia. The GIS data are proprietary to the County, and title to this information remains in the County. All applicable common law and statutory rights in the GIS data including,but not limited to, rights in copyright, shall and will remain the property of the County."

My take is that this language was crafted in the early days of paleo-GIS and was intended as a CYA by local governments who feared getting sued for inaccurate data. I'm not sure of the implications for importing into OpenStreetMap. Insights welcome.



OK, Steven, here are my insights. Again, I am not an attorney, just a reasonably informed Citizen, and I most certainly do not know everything in this realm.

It would seem Virginia has a situation similar to California's a few years ago, BEFORE California Supreme Court's 2009 decision: one where statutory law (California Public Records Act, part of California's Government Code) conflicted with a copyright/Terms of Use by a public entity (Santa Clara County). The California First Amendment Coalition (CFAC) requested geographic data from the County of Santa Clara free of the County's onerous copyright and/or Terms of Use (asserting it under CPRA law, as enacted), the County refused, so CFAF sued, demanding as its remedy access to the data unfettered by copyright or other restrictions. Long story short, it went all the way to the California Supreme Court, and CFAF won.

The best part about this is that "open access to public records" isn't just enacted law, it is enacted law AFFIRMED BY HIGH COURT, about as good as it gets when such or similar questions arise in the future.

What you (or somebody else, preferably with deep legal pockets!) might do is something similar: explicitly reject the copyright as a direct conflict of statutory law. It appears you have to understand what Virginia's law says, be prepared to challenge the jurisdiction's actions (assertion of copyright) as illegal and be convinced court(s) will see it your way. I think. Or at least, be prepared for that to happen: that's what happened here.

A similar, recent (July 2013) case between the Sierra Club and Orange County can be read about at http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/08/local/la-me-adv-map-ruling-20130709 where again, the court ruled that the County must provide the GIS data without licensing or restrictions on distribution.

Once the data are "cleanly yours," THEN there are good questions to ask whether the data might or should find their way into OSM. That is an entirely different thread! (One which has been addressed many times and in many ways regarding imports).

I hope this helps,

SteveA
California
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