If we're going to consider what homeowners and businesses will write, then add this: in many (all?) Southern States, people write neither the state abbrev. nor SR. They write "highway," even for US routes. "I'm at 5314 Highway 49."
-jack On December 3, 2014 7:33:55 AM EST, Minh Nguyen <[email protected]> wrote: >On 2014-12-01 13:58, James Mast wrote: >> Same thing goes with Florida. Just the state outline. >> >> Heck, in Pennsylvania, originally on BGS's before we started to use >the >> Keystone shield, we used the 'PA' abbreviation (one such sign that >still >> stands [1]). However, now on the little white reference mileage >signs >> [2] that PennDOT posts on roads they maintain, it says 'SR' (even on >> Interstates). However, PennDOT recently posted a nice little gem on >> PA-28 @ Exit #6 going both directions that goes back in time and >> mentions the 'PA' on the sign. [3] There are at least 3 of these >signs >> (2 going SB, at least 1 going NB). > >Just to be clear, the argument I've been putting forward has little to >do with route shields (or places where you'd expect a route shield). >I'm >thinking about places where plain text is expected and intended for a >general audience. > >(If you're sick of hearing me ramble on about ref formats, feel free to > >tune out now.) > >Variable message signs are generally programmed to display alphanumeric > >messages only. [1] The messages usually say "SR" for state routes in >Ohio [2], Florida [3], and Utah [4]; "KY" in Kentucky; "K-" in Kansas; >and "SH" in Texas [5]. (California doesn't usually bother qualifying >the >state route number.) > >But it isn't all about the highway department. The same style tends to >be used also by the media and by businesses and homeowners giving their > >addresses. Any other style sounds foreign. > >If we standardize all states on the state abbreviations, software like >Nominatim would need special cases to translate from e.g. "100 SR 123, >Red Lion" (what a typical user would input based on a business listing) > >to "100, OH 123, Red Lion, Warren County, Ohio". Routers would need to >translate in the other direction, because street signs are often >limited >to plain text. If someone's in unfamiliar territory and their GPS says >"turn left on Texas 99" but they see "SH-99" on a blade sign [6], maybe > >that could make them hesitate and miss a turn? > >In any case, I'm only concerned with allowing Ohio to keep the "SR" >refs >intact, since folks have occasionally suggested that they be >eliminated. >I bring up other states just to point out that Ohio isn't much of a >special case in reality. > >[1] OTOH some do have shields: ><http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_401_images/401_dv_191_west_lg.jpg> >[2] ><https://www.dot.state.oh.us/Divisions/Operations/Traffic/FAQs/PublishingImages/DMS_Carillon.jpg> >[3] ><http://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida075/i-075_sb_exit_101_04.jpg> >[4] <http://www.aaroads.com/west/utah067/ut-067_sb_exit_004_09.jpg> >[5] <http://www.aaroads.com/texas/sh250-299/sh-286_n_horne_rd_02.jpg> >[6] ><http://webzoom.freewebs.com/theoldcopperfield/Album%2027%20Pic%2006.jpg> > >-- >[email protected] > > >_______________________________________________ >Talk-us mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology.
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