On 03/17/2015 05:25 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Alex Barth <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    What do people think about how to properly retag place=hamlet in
    US urban areas?

    My colleague Eliane rendered out a map of all hamlets in urban
    areas in the US:

    http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samely/diary/34541

    I just posted how we could fix this:

    http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samely/diary/34541#comment29931


I'm in favor of a bulk edit for US hamlets within city boundaries to be retagged as place=neighbourhood


Careful with this!

In New York, hamlets are very often quite well-defined entities. They have road signs at their borders, the people who live in them self-identify as residents of the hamlet, they frequently have post offices named for them, and so on. What they lack is a distinct local government. Instead, their government is that of the township that contains them.

I would be quite annoyed if the hamlet that was my home town when I was growing up (Inwood, New York) were to be tagged as a "neighbourhood" of "Hempstead". "Town of Hempstead," in the present day, has very little land in Hempstead - limited to a smallish tract surrounding the town hall. The rest of Hempstead is "Village of Hempstead" - whose residents self-identify as living in Hempstead. The residents of the unincorporated areas of the township do NOT identify as living in Hempstead.

Some of these "hamlets" are in fact medium-sized cities that never troubled to incorporate. Levittown, New York, for instance is a hamlet with a population of over fifty thousand.

And - local mappers have already done considerable tidying with respect to New York hamlets. This sort of mechanical edit means that the local mappers would have to go back and retag the hamlets yet again.

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73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin


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