Paul Norman writes:
Yes. To substantiate this, I looked at communications from the US chapter

Hmph: "You guys seem to armchair map, I say from my armchair mapping substantiation perspective."

Not me, at least, not always. Do your stats show how I (and thousands like me) map away from my armchair? Did we hear about them here? Hmph, no.

Martijn wants to (valiantly) dig around to find some important gum on our shoe that maybe needs scraping off. I don't think there is that much (nobody is perfect), so I'd say "No" to his question "do we play a role in this?" It largely seems like sad (Frederik's work, I agree) overgeneralization about what and how we map here. I chalk up a lot of the "false assumptions" to "different regions grow in different ways at different rates." Europe is more of a "handsome young adult" while the USA might still be a bit of a "gawky adolescent." That doesn't make either of us worthy of calling names at the other, however it happens. So let's cool it down.

Wow, the irony. I'm trying to be nice here (Ian and everybody else). But posts like Paul's make it difficult to keep my composure. Paul, what were you thinking?! OSM isn't (largely) "indoor computer-based events" and "chapter administrative" blog posts (as important as those components may be to certain individuals at certain times). It IS largely about MAPPING. Whether armchair-based (important) or out-in-the-world-based (also important).

If you need an existence proof, look at thousands of my edits, if nobody else's. They come from the real world (and it is true, some of them also don't), and have been entered, vetted and enjoyed for years and years. And I'm not alone here. You simply can't ignore that (those, us).

SteveA
California

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