Sorry for the google maps links on this, but I've found NJ's use of shoulders (or "curb lanes") as bike lanes kind of strange. I would tag this as cycleway=lane but nothing for shoulder. For example: (note the trash can in the "lane")
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5149298,-74.5297972,3a,40.9y,53.58h,83.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0QLvGdBx82YW5Xs75YzWzQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Although I felt perfectly safe biking on this road this morning (without the sharrows / bikes only sign): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5407346,-74.5356208,3a,75y,207.71h,66.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJwFCiQoh4c09hukm1CsuNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 This would be a good candidate for the shoulder tag, but some shoulders are not bikable at all because of debris, grates, illegally? parked cars, etc. The second one looks more similar to CR 546, and I would definitely want to be able to see this information in OpenStreetMap, because these road tend to be far more bikable than something without a shoulder. Which is extremely common in NJ. (example: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.299179,-74.8338145,3a,75y,69.82h,65.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sedhRN9KpSkOu9mpGC1w-SQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DedhRN9KpSkOu9mpGC1w-SQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D130.6606%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656 ) On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Mike Dupont <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com > wrote: > Take a look at this map of the area > http://www.dvrpc.org/asp/bikemercer/ > > It would not be used as a source, but it gives you an idea of what > people call bike-able around here. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> > wrote: > > Elliott Plack wrote: > >> I am now leaning towards the shoulder tag, and perhaps > >> recommending that the routing tools consider that. > > > > I'd be genuinely delighted to add shoulder support to cycle.travel when > > there's more than a trace number of shoulder tags present in the OSM > > database - missing shoulder information is the second biggest bike > routing > > issue in the US IMO (after bogus TIGER highway=residential, of course). > But > > as Paul says, please don't misuse cycleway tags for this. > > > > cheers > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Extra-wide-shoulders-travel-lanes-in-NJ-tp5856823p5856885.html > > Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > -- > James Michael DuPont > Kansas Linux Fest http://kansaslinuxfest.us > Free/Libre Open Source and Open Knowledge Association of Kansas > http://openkansas.us > Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://www.flossk.org > Saving Wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion > http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >
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