These types of roads (portions of roads are somewhat common in the City of Cleveland - for example, here's a selection of them - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/goF ) I've done Martijn's #2 option but as Jack Burke noted, I used alt_name instead since it's less ambiguous as name_1.
Regards, Will On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Talk-us mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-us digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Odd road / odd structure (Martijn van Exel) > 2. 'Honorary' street name conflicts with posted name - how to > decide (Martijn van Exel) > 3. Re: 'Honorary' street name conflicts with posted name - how > to decide (Jack Burke) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:53:44 -0600 > From: Martijn van Exel <[email protected]> > To: Steve Friedl <[email protected]> > Cc: OSM Talk US <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Odd road / odd structure > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Steve, > > It looks like there is garage access, so I would tag it highway=service, > possibly with an appropriate access= tag if access is restricted. > https://bit.ly/1WNyjdd <https://bit.ly/1WNyjdd> > > If you are referring to the foot access to the west of that, I’d do > highway=footway (perhaps with bicycle=yes if appropriate) and name it > Paisley Place as well, if that name refers to that side of the homes also. > > Martijn > > > On May 23, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Steve Friedl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have two things that I just don’t quite know how to map. Sorry that I > have to provide Google Maps views to demonstrate. > > > > 1) How does one represent a named street which is really a > greenbelt: never been drivable, was assigned a name just to allow attaching > a street name to the houses on either side. > > > > Example: In Irvine California there’s a residential area shown here: > > > > https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7298257,-117.7572128,19z < > https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7298257,-117.7572128,19z> > > > > I’m referring to Paisley Place, which is shown as a named alley > connecting Garden Gate Lane and Winslow Lane. > > > > After surveying the area and seeing that the City of Irvine GIS showed > Paisley as that greenbelt, I reported it as an error (as I’ve done dozens > of times for other things), but the very helpful GIS manager reported that > this is correct (but certainly odd), and the two street-like things on > either side of it are just unnamed alleys. > > > > How do I represent this in OSM? It’s not a street that doesn’t allow > access, it’s not really even a street! > > > > 2) How do I represent a parking-lot-sized area that’s intended to > collect rainwater that fills a cistern? > > > > In the Santa Ana Mountains in Southern California, the satellite views > show something that looks exactly like a helipad: > > > > https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7875181,-117.5805174,419m/data=!3m1!1e3 > <https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7875181,-117.5805174,419m/data=!3m1!1e3> > > > > But it’s not. That whole huge surface – paved in asphalt – is tilted > slightly so that rainwater water will collect and fill the two cisterns to > the left (zooming in you can barely see the pipe from the big pad to the > cisterns. > > > > I cannot find anything that’s even close to describing what this is, but > it’s so prominent on the maps (and interesting to visit) that I seems like > it should be there even if to make note that it’s not a helipad. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve – who hopes the links above work. > > --- > > Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | 714 345-4571 > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> | Southern California | > Windows Guy | unixwiz.net <http://unixwiz.net/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-us mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us < > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20160523/b702dc0a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:03:15 -0600 > From: Martijn van Exel <[email protected]> > To: OSM Talk US <[email protected]> > Subject: [Talk-us] 'Honorary' street name conflicts with posted name - > how to decide > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Salt Lake City just renamed a part of 900 South to ‘Harvey Milk > Boulevard’. This is a so-called ‘honorary designation’. But now I see a > conflict. > > 1) The common tagging practice is that posted names rule. The signs > changed to show the new honorary name: > https://goo.gl/photos/xqAxQCwCmPRUGWkm9 < > https://goo.gl/photos/xqAxQCwCmPRUGWkm9> . So that would suggest I change > the name to ‘Harvey Milk Boulevard’ and demote ‘900 South’ to name_1 or > loc_name. > 2) Addressing and geocoding. People will continue to refer to this street > as 900 South. Official addresses will not change. That would suggest that I > leave the name=900 South in place and add name_1=Harvey Milk Boulevard. > > I went with option 2, here is a segment —> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/418190301 < > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/418190301> > > Opinions? > > Martijn > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20160523/bd3ed342/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:12:14 -0400 > From: Jack Burke <[email protected]> > To: Martijn van Exel <[email protected]>,OSM Talk US > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] 'Honorary' street name conflicts with posted > name - how to decide > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I concur. You could also put Harvey as an alt_name tag. > > -- > Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology > > On May 23, 2016 1:03:15 PM EDT, Martijn van Exel <[email protected]> wrote: > >Salt Lake City just renamed a part of 900 South to ‘Harvey Milk > >Boulevard’. This is a so-called ‘honorary designation’. But now I see a > >conflict. > > > >1) The common tagging practice is that posted names rule. The signs > >changed to show the new honorary name: > >https://goo.gl/photos/xqAxQCwCmPRUGWkm9 > ><https://goo.gl/photos/xqAxQCwCmPRUGWkm9> . So that would suggest I > >change the name to ‘Harvey Milk Boulevard’ and demote ‘900 South’ to > >name_1 or loc_name. > >2) Addressing and geocoding. People will continue to refer to this > >street as 900 South. Official addresses will not change. That would > >suggest that I leave the name=900 South in place and add name_1=Harvey > >Milk Boulevard. > > > >I went with option 2, here is a segment —> > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/418190301 > ><https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/418190301> > > > >Opinions? > > > >Martijn > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Talk-us mailing list > >[email protected] > >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20160523/3c643490/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk-us Digest, Vol 102, Issue 38 > **************************************** >
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