Neither this talk-us list nor I have received any response to my request for comments (on- or off-list). Hence I might believe it is safe to assume there is no widespread opposition to harmonizing the network=* tag on all Amtrak routes to network=Amtrak without further subdividing values within that key-value pair (as below). Again, the passenger=* tag (as below, with values [suburban, regional, national, international]) now denotes the kind of passenger service available without subdividing the single network of Amtrak, which seems a valid justification for setting all Amtrak routes to be network=Amtrak. We can take further Discussion on this to https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Amtrak. Thank you.
While our Amtrak wiki characterizes many route=train relations as "rough," they continue to improve (better tagging as above, public_transport:version=1 being upgraded to v2, underlying infrastructure route=railway relations created with members that are better named and with correct usage=* tags, many platforms have been added thanks to the "Add platforms" MapRoulette challenge...). The US has one of the largest, if not THE largest rail and passenger rail networks on Earth, it is a large task to improve the many pieces to be "world-class passenger train route data." OSM is well underway towards this goal and progress has been steady for several years. See https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Amtrak and/or https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States_railways if you wish to participate. Did you "play with trains" when you were younger? Please help improve OSM's "national train set" in the US: it's actually rather fun! SteveA California > On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:08 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea <stevea...@softworkers.com> > wrote: > > I remain listening as to what OSM might best do with the network= tag on > Amtrak routes. Some additional research (Wikipedia) reveals that "Amtrak > services fall into three groups: short-haul service on the Northeast > Corridor, state-supported short haul service outside the Northeast Corridor, > and long-distance service known within Amtrak as the National Network." (It > is not known what routes are in this "National Network.") As for > "international" routes — there are three which continue into Canada — these > are not mentioned, although it may be that these three international routes > are considered to be in the National Network. > > Current tagging (passenger=*) of national, regional and suburban (meaning > "commuter") seem to correlate quite well with these three groups, and the > three international routes are indeed tagged passenger=international. But > that is the passenger=* tag, not the network=* tag. I still wonder (out > loud, here) whether all their network=* tags should be set as simply > network=Amtrak or whether these three (four, really) groups should be set as: > > network=Amtrak Commuter (on Amtrak routes which are now set to > passenger=suburban, meaning "commuter"), > network=Amtrak Regional (on Amtrak routes which are now set to > passenger=regional), > network=Amtrak National (on Amtrak routes which are now set to > passenger=national), > network=Amtrak International (on Amtrak routes which are now set to > passenger=international). > > Because these seem redundant, given the same information can be gleaned from > the passenger=* tag, all Amtrak routes set as: > > network=Amtrak > > is what I'm leaning towards doing. Although, I do remain listening to > opinion/guidance from anybody here on talk-us, including pointing me to > additional on-line authoritative data. We're talking about fifty or fewer > route=train relation tags, not huge. Though, as the Northeast Regionals (and > other Amtrak routes) break out of rough public_transport:version=1 and grow > into version 2 routes, this number will grow. This is partly why I want to > establish network=* tagging as correct, to get ahead of this curve. > > Thank you for reading, > SteveA _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
