Hi Nic: Several years ago I developed a ten-step process for importing USFS data (boundaries) into OSM using our JOSM editor (more difficult to use than web-based iD, but more powerful, too). These are pretty technical steps, suitable for an intermediate or advanced OSM volunteer, but they are comprehensive, especially for getting a Forest Service boundary (whether forest or wilderness, two separate legal designations) "conflated" with data already existing in OSM. I would be happy to send them to you, just reply and ask me for my "USFS Import ten-step" document.
SteveA California > On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:29 AM, talk-us-nps-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > > Send Talk-us-nps mailing list submissions to > talk-us-...@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us-nps > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-us-nps-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-us-nps-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-us-nps digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] North Carolina National Park > (English, Jesse R -FS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 14:37:40 +0000 > From: "English, Jesse R -FS" <jrengl...@fs.fed.us> > To: James McAndrew <james_mcand...@partner.nps.gov>, > "dunic...@hotmail.com" <dunic...@hotmail.com>, > "talk-us-ow...@openstreetmap.org" <talk-us-ow...@openstreetmap.org> > Cc: "talk-us-...@openstreetmap.org" <talk-us-...@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us-nps] [EXTERNAL] North Carolina National Park > Message-ID: > <c921b1288c0f442284039e08cdf91...@bn1f00108mb0244.001f.mgd2.msft.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks for your interest, Nic! > > The place to get data for the Forest Service is the Data Extract Tool, at > https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/webapps/EDW_DataExtract/. The amount of data > varies by Forest, but most every forest should have the information that > would be useful to OSM – boundaries, roads, trails, recreation sites, etc. > > Some forests are combined administratively, even if they seem to be separate > forests on the ground. For instance, the Croatan NF is managed as part of the > National Forests in North Carolina. So to get the Croatan’s information, you > would go to the Data Extract Tool and download National Forests in North > Carolina data. Some other, mostly southern, states are like this, including > Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, and Florida. > > Wilderness areas are congressionally-designated areas within federal lands, > managed to standards that preserve their wilderness character. For all the > information you could ever want on wilderness, please visit Wilderness.net. > Here’s a great page to start on: > https://www.wilderness.net/NWPS/WhatIsWilderness > > I hope that helps get you started! Feel free to contact me with any more > questions. > > [Forest Service Shield] > > Jesse English, MLA, LEED AP > Recreation, Wilderness & Trails Program Manager > > Forest Service > Cherokee National Forest > > p: 423-476-9748 > jrengl...@fs.fed.us<https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=jrengl...@fs.fed.us> > > 2800 Ocoee St N > Cleveland, TN 37312 > www.fs.fed.us<http://www.fs.fed.us/> > [USDA Logo]<http://usda.gov/> [Forest Service Twitter] > <https://twitter.com/forestservice> [USDA Facebook] > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/US-Forest-Service/1431984283714112> > > Caring for the land and serving people > > > > > > > From: James McAndrew [mailto:james_mcand...@partner.nps.gov] > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:02 AM > To: dunic...@hotmail.com<mailto:dunic...@hotmail.com>; > talk-us@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Cc: talk-us-...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-us-...@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us-nps] [EXTERNAL] North Carolina National Park > > Nic, > > I'm CCing the general talk-us on this, since National Forests are outside of > the separate from the National Park Service, and there may be someone there > who can provide more guidance. > > In this particular case the Pocosin Wilderness Area is managed by the Forest > Service (part of the US Dept of Agriculture), although "wilderness areas" can > be managed by a number of groups within the federal government. > > If you're using data from state governments, you will need to look at the > licensing restrictions, because many states do not release their data into > public domain. US Federal government datasets are mandated to be in the > public domain, so there are no issues using them for OpenStreetMap. > > Since this National Forest and Wildlife area are not units of the National > Park System, you will not find them in the irma.nps.gov<http://irma.nps.gov> > dataset. It looks like your best source of data for this will be the PDF that > you linked: > https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5403940.pdf -- > Although it doesn't appear that the PDF is geo-enabled. > > I was able to find the boundary in the dataset named "Administrative Forest > Boundaries": > https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/edw/datasets.php?dsetCategory=boundaries > That may be another good source. > > I would also suggest overlaying the boundaries and making tweaks to the > existing OSM boundary instead of importing the new boundary and deleting the > old. That would allow existing points in the database to maintain their > history. > > I'm hoping someone from the general talk-us group can provide more input on > this. Best of luck! > > -- > Jim McAndrew > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:39 AM Nicolas Duclos > <dunic...@hotmail.com<mailto:dunic...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I’m new in OSM Community and after a short trip on East Coast of North > Carolina, I decided to help making NC more accurate than it is right now. > > I’m currently trying to edit or remake the Croatan National Forest, but I’m > not too sure how to achieve it by importing data. Currently for some reasons > there is two Croatan National Forest at the same place and the shape is not > really accurate compared to other maps out there. > > Here is what I found : > > http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/dataexplorer/index.jsp > > https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5403940.pdf > > Not too sure about the proclamation area on the map and what’s the difference > between national forest and wilderness. > > I could also create trails and outdoor activities spot in OSM. > > Data : > > http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/catalog/main/home.page (type marea in > search box) > or > https://irma.nps.gov/DataStore/Reference/Profile/2224545?lnv=True > > Not too sure which data to take or how they works. > > Thank you very much for your help. > > Nic from Canada 😊 > > > > > > This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA solely for > the intended recipients. 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