After mapping for years in the way you described, I've never been approached by anyone. I try to be very discreet and I try to look like I'm just texting with someone. Sitting on a bench nearby is ideal - if available. I decided long ago that if anyone ever did approach me I'd just say I'm taking down info from a business I may need to use in the future - which is actually a possibility. Not that it's anyone's business what I'm doing.
I prefer to avoid long explanations that people have little interest in. From my perspective, if a business owner posts signs on a store front with information in plain view of the street, the information in the public domain and they have no room for complaint. www.theaveragenomad.com -----Original Message----- >From: Jmapb <[email protected]> >Sent: Aug 21, 2018 10:39 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Talk-us] Food delivery services: Move-fast-and-break-trust > >Hi USA, just wanted to bring up an issue that I've run into recently >while mapping businesses in NYC. > >Whenever I'm walking through the city, I tend to whip out the phone and >check for anything missing, incorrect, or incomplete. Often this means >pausing in front of a restaurant and keying in contact info or opening >hours. Sometimes I also take pictures with the intention of adding tags >later. > >There have always been a few who treat this sort of thing with suspicion >-- especially taking pictures. But a couple times lately I've met with >outright hostility from restaurant staff when taking down their data. >One owner complained he was sick of "people from websites posting his >information." Turns out the culprits were food delivery services, who >had been offering delivery from his place without authorization. I plead >my innocence, but this guy was in no mood to appreciate the differences >between a crowdsourced map project and a move-fast-and-break-things >delivery startup. > >I discussed this with a friend of mine who owns a restaurant, and he >recounted a similar story -- an angry customer calling the restaurant to >complain about a late delivery. This restaurant doesn't do delivery, and >has never partnered with any third parties for delivery. But a food >delivery startup (I'm not naming names... actually I can't even keep >them straight) apparently scouted their location, imported the menu >(which changes often and is not posted on the web), and listed the >restaurant as a delivery client -- all without even informing the >restaurant, much less attempting to make any sort of agreement. They >wouldn't even take down the listing when confronted -- figured they >could just bully their way into a business relationship. And they were >listing dishes that weren't even on the menu anymore! Though they took >them all down quickly when the restaurant's lawyer called. > >Don't know how common these sort of predatory tactics are outside NYC, >but fair warning, there may be businesses out there who are no longer >delighted at the thought of someone "from the internet" taking notice of >their publicly-posted information. > >Happy mapping, Jason > > >_______________________________________________ >Talk-us mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

