Thank you for the information, Kevin!  It does look like all the important
information is there to continue writing up an import proposal.

Looks like ROD is "Record of Decision".  I was able to open that database
table in LibreOffice and a google search for the first filename in that
field shows the 2010 YOE decisions:
http://www.michigandnr.com/publications/pdfs/ForestsLandWater/Cmpt_Reviews/Gladwin/2010/gladwinROD.pdf.
While interesting to read, I don't think that would be relevant to end
users of OSM.


On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Kevin Kenny <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:31 AM Marcus W. Davenport
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm a decently experienced mapper from the Lansing and Hillsdale, MI
> areas and noticed the same issues with state owned land in OSM.  I've been
> using State of Michigan data to draw and maintain the two State Game Area's
> that I hike regularly: the Portland State Game Area (on the Grand River
> just south of Portland) and the Lost Nations State Game Area (just south of
> Pittsford; sometimes known as "Pittsford State Game Area").
> > One issue I've found with the State Forest Compartments shapefile that
> was originally linked is that JOSM does not seem to import this file with
> the metadata required to make any addition without local knowledge. Other
> State of Michigan shapefiles will open names and superfluous data as keys
> and values, but his shapefile appears to be outlines only.
> > Also, it's my understanding that SGA's and forests would be either
> "protect_class" = 4 or 5 (depending on whether the enclosed species or
> landscape are of greater importance).  That is solely my interpretation
> based on reading
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area.
>
> I downloaded the data set and queried it with GDAL, and what I see is:
>
> INFO: Open of
> `Michigan_State_Forest_Compartments/Michigan_State_Forest_Compartments.shp'
>       using driver `ESRI Shapefile' successful.
>
> Layer name: Michigan_State_Forest_Compartments
> Geometry: Polygon
> Feature Count: 2462
> Extent: (-90.057938, 41.732556) - (-82.486685, 47.475682)
> Layer SRS WKT:
> GEOGCS["GCS_WGS_1984",
>     DATUM["WGS_1984",
>         SPHEROID["WGS_84",6378137,298.257223563]],
>     PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],
>     UNIT["Degree",0.017453292519943295],
>     AUTHORITY["EPSG","4326"]]
> OBJECTID: Integer64 (10.0)
> OBJECTID_1: Integer64 (10.0)
> MANAGMENTT: String (80.0)
> Management: String (80.0)
> UNIT_NAME: String (80.0)
> FC_key: String (80.0)
> COUNTY: String (80.0)
> YOE: String (80.0)
> Acres: Real (24.15)
> ROD_URL: String (113.0)
> DDLat: Real (24.15)
> DDLon: Real (24.15)
> Shape__Are: Real (24.15)
> Shape__Len: Real (24.15)
>
> which looks as if all the columns that are listed in the metadata are
> there. I also successfully pushed it into my PostGIS instance:
>
> $ ogr2ogr -progress -overwrite -t_srs EPSG:3857 -f PostgreSQL
> PG:dbname=gis
> Michigan_State_Forest_Compartments/Michigan_State_Forest_Compartments.shp
> -nln Michigan_State_Forest_Compartments -nlt MULTIPOLYGON -lco
> 'precision=NO'
> 0...10...20...30...40...50...60...70...80...90...100 - done.
>
> Would the information in 'MANAGMENTT' (spelt thus!) be sufficient to
> assign the protect_class? The enumerated values are:
>
> gis=# select distinct managmentt from michigan_state_forest_compartments \g
>   managmentt
> ---------------
>  State Parks
>  State Forests
>  Wildlife
> (3 rows)
>
> That seems to distinguish State Forests from Wildlife Management Areas
> (or whatever the correct term is in Michigan).
>
> The name of the facility appears to be in the MANAGEMENT column.  Most
> of the 'Wildlife' compartments and all of the 'State Parks'
> compartments have this field either null, blank, or 'Unspecified'.
> Virtually all the values of 'Management' have multiple compartments -
> 'AuSable Outwash' has no fewer than 88. We'd want to work on
> coalescing these, and I *think* they should merge cleanly if we do it
> in PostGIS.
>
> I suspect that the following columns could be safely ignored for State
> Forests:
> UNIT_NAME - Appears to be the name of the office that manages a
> parcel. Some forests appear to be split among multiple units. For
> State Parks and Wildlife Areas, this is the name of the facility.
> FC_Key - Some sort of record ID, most likely better ignored.
> County - We already have administrative boundaries in OSM, no need to
> replicate this.
> YOE - 'Year of Entry'. This can be either past or future, and I
> suspect is a historic or projected entry by a forestry crew to study
> the plot and plan any timber harvest. This is specific to individual
> compartments and would work against coalescing them, and I think it's
> information that OSM wouldn't care about.
> Acres, DDLat, DDLon, Shape__ARE, Shape__LEN - Redundant, easily
> computed from geometry.
> ROD_URL - Appears to be a link to a report on the status of the
> parcel. Many of the links are dead. I suppose we could include this,
> but I'd sure like to know what ROD stands for!
>
> A quick attempt to query for the state forests gives me:
>
>
> gis=# select managmentt, management, count(1) from
> michigan_state_forest_compartments group by managmentt, management
> order by management asc \g
>   managmentt   |            management            | count
> ---------------+----------------------------------+-------
>  State Forests | 8 Mile Corner                    |    12
>  State Forests | Alpena Lake Plain                |    44
>  State Forests | Amasa Plains                     |     6
>  State Forests | AuSable Outwash                  |    88
>  State Forests | Avery Hills                      |    25
>  State Forests | Baraga Plains                    |     5
>  State Forests | Battydoe Deer Yard               |     9
>  State Forests | Benzie Moraines                  |    10
>  State Forests | Benzie Outwash                   |    20
>  State Forests | Boardman Plains                  |    29
>  State Forests | Brampton Lake Plain              |     3
>  State Forests | Brule-Iron River Tracts          |     3
>  State Forests | Bullock Ranch                    |    14
>  State Forests | Camp Grayling                    |    58
>  State Forests | Carp River Red Pine              |    11
>  State Forests | Cassidy Creek                    |    20
>  State Forests | Central Houghton                 |    32
>  State Forests | Central Keweenaw                 |     4
>  State Forests | Chain Lakes Moraine              |    64
>  State Forests | Chandler Hills                   |    32
>  State Forests | Charcoal Grade                   |     8
>  State Forests | Chatham-Autrain Moraines         |    11
>  State Forests | Cheboygan Basin Moraines         |    25
>  State Forests | Cheboygan Lake Plain             |    35
>  State Forests | County Line Hardwoods            |    14
>  State Forests | Covington-Ned Lake               |    12
>  State Forests | Cusino Complex                   |    30
>  State Forests | Cyr Swamp                        |     4
>  State Forests | Danaher Kingston Outwash         |    24
>  State Forests | Dead Horse Moraines              |    62
>  State Forests | Deer Park                        |    42
>  State Forests | Drummond Island                  |    16
>  State Forests | Emmet Moraines                   |    21
>  State Forests | Evart Block                      |    10
>  State Forests | Floodwood Plains                 |     5
>  State Forests | Fourteen Mile Point Lake Plain   |     2
>  State Forests | Fox River Complex                |    12
>  State Forests | Garden Thompson Plains           |    15
>  State Forests | Gladwin Lake Plain               |    27
>  State Forests | Gogomain                         |     4
>  State Forests | Grayling Ice Contact             |    35
>  State Forests | Grayling Outwash                 |    31
>  Wildlife      | Great Lakes Islands - NLP        |     5
>  State Forests | Great Lakes Islands - NLP        |    15
>  State Forests | Green Bay Lake Plain             |    45
>  State Forests | Groveland                        |    20
>  State Forests | Hammond Bay Lake Plain           |    25
>  State Forests | Hiawatha Moraine                 |     9
>  State Forests | Houghton Lake Wetlands           |    24
>  State Forests | Huron Mountains                  |     8
>  State Forests | Huron Patterned Outcrop          |    14
>  State Forests | Jordan Valley                    |    18
>  State Forests | Keweenaw Tip                     |     3
>  State Forests | Kincheloe Highlands              |     4
>  State Forests | Kinross Bog                      |     6
>  State Forests | Kirtland's Warbler               |    58
> State Forests | Lake County Moraines             |     9
>  State Forests | Lake County Outwash              |    17
>  State Forests | Lake Michigan Shoreline          |    24
>  State Forests | Mackinac Mix                     |    35
>  State Forests | Mackinaw Lake Plain              |    19
>  State Forests | Manistee Plains                  |    13
>  State Forests | Manistee River Valley            |    50
>  State Forests | Maxton Plains                    |     2
>  State Forests | Menge Creek                      |     4
>  State Forests | Menominee End Moraine            |    23
>  State Forests | Michigamme Reservoir             |    28
>  State Forests | Midland-Isabella                 |    12
>  State Forests | Milakokia Lake                   |     8
>  State Forests | Munuscong Bay                    |     8
>  State Forests | Nathan-Banat Moraines            |     9
>  State Forests | Net River                        |    13
>  State Forests | North Menominee Moraines         |    12
>  State Forests | North Rudyard                    |     4
>  State Forests | Norwich Plain                    |     3
>  State Forests | Ogemaw Hills                     |    27
>  State Forests | Palmer Moraine                   |     5
>  State Forests | Panola Plains                    |    13
>  State Forests | Peavy Moraine                    |     7
>  State Forests | Peshekee Highlands               |    15
>  State Forests | Pictured Rocks Buffer            |    12
>  State Forests | Pigeon River Country             |    61
>  State Forests | Ralph Ground Moraine             |    91
>  State Forests | Rattlesnake Hills                |    19
>  State Forests | Sage Truck Trail                 |    16
>  State Forests | Sand River Lake Plain            |    14
>  State Forests | Sands Plains                     |     5
>  State Forests | Seney Manistique Swamp           |    72
>  State Forests | Strickler Aspen                  |     8
>  State Forests | Sturgeon Sloughs                 |     4
>  State Forests | Summer Islands                   |     1
>  State Forests | Tahquamenon Basin Wetlands       |    26
>  State Forests | Tahquamenon River Patterned Fens |     7
>  State Forests | Thunder Bay Outwash              |    33
>  State Forests | Two Hearted Headwaters           |     6
>  State Parks   | Unspecified                      |   123
>  Wildlife      | Unspecified                      |   120
>  State Forests | Upper Muskegon                   |    78
>  Wildlife      | Upper Muskegon                   |     1
>  State Forests | Voelker Plains                   |    12
>  State Forests | Waishkey Bay                     |     2
>  State Forests | Whitefish Vermillion Point       |    19
>  State Forests | Williamsburg Moraine             |     8
>  State Forests | Wurtsmith                        |    10
>  State Forests | Yellowdog Plains                 |     4
>  Wildlife      |                                  |   122
>  State Forests |                                  |     1
>  State Parks   |                                  |    39
>
> The State Parks/Scenic Sites/State Reccreation Areas/State Historic
> Parks, appear to have their names in 'Unit_Name'. We'd want to expand
> the abbreviations, SP, SRA, etc.
>
> gis=# select unit_name, count(1) from
> michigan_state_forest_compartments where managmentt = 'State Parks'
> group by unit_name order by unit_name \g
>                 unit_name                | count
> -----------------------------------------+-------
>  Agate Falls Scenic Site                 |     1
>  Algonac SP                              |     1
>  Aloha SP                                |     1
>  Bald Mountain SRA                       |     1
>  Baraga SP                               |     1
>  Bass River SRA                          |     2
>  Bay City SRA                            |     1
>  Belle Isle SP                           |     1
>  Bewabic SP                              |     1
>  Bond Falls Scenic Site                  |     1
>  Brighton SRA                            |     4
>  Brimley SP                              |     1
>  Burt Lake SP                            |     1
>  Cambridge State Historic Park           |     1
>  Charters Traverse City SP               |     1
>  Cheboygan SP                            |     1
>  Clear Lake SP                           |     1
>  Coldwater SP                            |     1
>  Craig Lake SP                           |     6
>  Dodge #4 SP                             |     1
>  Duck Lake SP                            |     1
>  Fayette Historic SP                     |     2
>  Fishermans Island SP                    |     1
>  Fort Custer SRA                         |     2
>  Fort Wilkins Historic SP                |     1
>  Grand Haven SP                          |     1
>  Grand Mere SP                           |     1
>  Harrisville SP                          |     1
>  Hartwick Pines SP                       |     3
>  Hayes SP                                |     4
>  Highland SRA                            |     1
>  Hoeft SP                                |     1
>  Hoffmaster SP                           |     2
>  Holland SP                              |     1
>  Holly SRA                               |     7
>  Indian Lake SP                          |     1
>  Interlochen SP                          |     1
>  Ionia SRA                               |     3
>  Island Lake SRA                         |     5
>  Lake Gogebic SP                         |     1
>  Lake Hudson SRA                         |     3
>  Lakeport SP                             |     1
>  Laughing Whitefish Falls SP             |     1
>  Leelanau SP                             |     2
>  Lime Island SRA                         |     1
>  Ludington SP                            |     3
>  Maybury SP                              |     1
>  McLain SP                               |     1
>  Mears SP                                |     1
>  Menominee River SRA                     |     5
>  Meridian-Baseline Historic SP           |     2
>  Metamora-Hadley SRA                     |     1
>  Milliken SP & Harbor                    |     1
>  Mitchell SP                             |     1
>  Muskallonge Lake SP                     |     1
>  Muskegon SP                             |     1
>  Negwegon SP                             |     2
>  Newaygo SP                              |     1
>  North Higgins Lake SP                   |     1
>  Old Mission Peninsula SP                |     1
>  Onaway SP                               |     1
>  Orchard Beach SP                        |     1
>  Ortonville SRA                          |     2
>  Otsego Lake SP                          |     1
>  Palms Book SP                           |     1
>  Petoskey SP                             |     1
>  Pinckney SRA                            |     2
>  Pontiac Lake SRA                        |     1
>  Porcupine Mountains Wilderness SP       |     6
>  Port Crescent SP                        |     1
>  Proud Lake SRA                          |     1
>  Rifle River SRA                         |     1
>  Rockport SRA                            |     2
>  Sanilac Petroglyphs State Historic Park |     1
>  Saugatuck Dunes SP                      |     1
>  Seven Lakes SP                          |     1
>  Silver Lake SP                          |     1
>  Sleeper SP                              |     1
>  Sleepy Hollow SP                        |     1
>  South Higgins Lake SP                   |     1
>  Sterling SP                             |     1
>  Straits SP                              |     1
>  Sturgeon Point SP                       |     1
>  Tahquamenon Falls SP                    |     2
>  Tawas Point SP                          |     1
>  Thompsons Harbor SP                     |     1
>  Tippy Dam SRA                           |     1
>  Twin Lakes SP                           |     1
>  Van Buren SP                            |     1
>  Van Riper SP                            |     1
>  Wagner Falls Scenic Site                |     1
>  Warren Dunes SP                         |     1
>  Warren Woods SP                         |     1
>  Waterloo SRA                            |    11
>  Wells SP                                |     1
>  Wetzel SRA                              |     1
>  Wilderness SP                           |     1
>  Wilson SP                               |     1
>  Yankee Springs SRA                      |     4
>  Young SP                                |     1
> (100 rows)
>
> and so do the State Game Areas/State Fish and WIldlife Areas/State
> Wildlife Areas - again, we'd want to expand abbreviations:
>
> gis=# select unit_name, count(1) from
> michigan_state_forest_compartments where managmentt = 'Wildlife' group
> by unit_name order by unit_name \g
>               unit_name               | count
> --------------------------------------+-------
>  Adams Twp. SGA                       |     1
>  Allegan SGA                          |    25
>  Almer Twp. SGA                       |     1
>  Augusta Creek SFWA                   |     1
>  Barry SGA                            |     8
>  Betsie River SGA                     |     1
>  Blendon Twp. SGA                     |     1
>  Boyle Lake SWA                       |     1
>  Brownstown Prairie SWA               |     1
>  Cannonsburg SGA                      |     1
>  Cass City SGA                        |     1
>  Charlotte (Eaton Twp.) SGA           |     1
>  Chelsea SGA                          |     1
>  Chesterfield Twp. SGA                |     1
>  Columbia Twp. SGA                    |     1
>  Crane Pond SGA                       |     1
>  Crow Island SGA                      |     2
>  Cusino SWRA                          |     1
>  Dansville SGA                        |     2
>  Davisburg SGA                        |     1
>  Deford SGA                           |     2
>  Denmark Twp. SGA                     |     1
>  Edmore SGA                           |     4
>  Elmwood Twp. SGA                     |     1
>  Erie SGA                             |     1
>  Fabius SGA                           |     1
>  Fish Point SWA                       |     1
>  Flat River SGA                       |     5
>  Flynn SGA                            |     1
>  Fox Islands                          |     5
>  Fraser Twp. No.2 (Kitchen Rd.) SGA   |     1
>  Fuller Woods SGA                     |     1
>  Fulton SGA                           |     1
>  Gagetown SGA                         |     4
>  Gale Road Grand River SGA            |     1
>  Gladwin SGA                          |     1
>  Goose Lake SGA                       |     1
>  Gourdneck SGA                        |     4
>  Grand Haven SGA                      |     1
>  Grand River SGA                      |     1
>  Grass Lake SGA                       |     1
>  Gratiot-Saginaw SGA                  |     8
>  Gregory SGA                          |     2
>  Haymarsh Lake SGA                    |     8
>  Hillcrest SGA                        |     1
>  Horseshoe Lake SGA                   |     1
>  Keeler SGA                           |     1
>  Lake Interstate SGA                  |     1
>  Langston SGA                         |     2
>  Lapeer SGA                           |     5
>  Leidy Lake SGA                       |     1
>  Lost Nation SGA                      |     3
>  Manistee SGA                         |     2
>  Maple River SGA                      |     5
>  Martiny Lake SGA                     |     8
>  Middleville SGA                      |     1
>  Middleville SGA                      |     1
>  Minden City SGA                      |     1
>  Murphy Lake SGA                      |     2
>  Muskegon SGA                         |    12
>  Muskrat Lake SGA                     |     1
>  Nayanquing Point SWA                 |     2
>  Oak Grove SGA                        |     1
>  Oliver Twp. SGA                      |     1
>  Olive Twp. SGA                       |     1
>  Onsted SGA                           |     1
>  Pentwater River SGA                  |     3
>  Pere Marquette SGA                   |     1
>  Petersburg SGA                       |     1
>  Petobego SGA                         |     1
>  Pinconning Twp. (Cody-Esty Rd.) SGA  |     1
>  Point Aux Peaux SWA                  |     1
>  Point Mouille SGA                    |     8
>  Port Huron SGA                       |     3
>  Portland SGA                         |     3
>  Quanicassee SWA                      |     2
>  Rogue River SGA                      |     6
>  Rose Lake SWA                        |     3
>  Rush Lake SGA                        |     1
>  Salt River Marsh SWA                 |     1
>  Saranac-Lowell SGA                   |     3
>  Sharonville SGA                      |     3
>  Shiawassee River SGA                 |     9
>  Somerset SGA                         |     1
>  Spring Creek SGA                     |     1
>  Stanton SGA                          |     4
>  St. Clair Flats SWA                  |     2
>  St. Clair Twp. SGA                   |     1
>  St. John's Marsh SWA                 |     1
>  Tamarack Lake SGA                    |     1
>  Three Rivers SGA                     |     2
>  Tuscola SGA                          |     4
>  Vassar SGA                           |     6
>  Verona SGA                           |     1
>  Vestaburg SGA                        |     3
>  Webster Lake (Berrien Twp No. 1) SGA |     1
>  Wigwam Bay SWA                       |     1
>  Wildfowl Bay SWA                     |     2
>  Windsor Township SGA                 |     1
>                                       |     3
> (99 rows)
>
> (We'd need to see what the three nameless ones are.)
>
> So on the whole it's looking to me as if we could at least get
> boundary=protected_area name=* operator=* protect_class=*
> protection_title=* leisure=nature_reserve and probably some access
> information - if the answers to my earlier questions are all
> satisfactory.
>
> I have neither the time nor the local knowledge to execute the import,
> but I can probably help with the programming - I've gotten fairly good
> at whacking up scripts for this sort of thing. Of course, actually
> doing the conflation isn't a job for a newbie!
>
> I'll let the locals decide where to take it from here. Let me know how
> I can help, bearing in mind my lack of local knowledge.
>
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