If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler?

Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary?

Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by [email protected]:

> i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.
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>> Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk 
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>> Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by [email protected]:
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>>> Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and 
>>> if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM 
>>> Foundation into oblivion.  They used to even have their OWN satellites to 
>>> obtain imagery.  That's serious money.
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>> That is not the main problem. Main problem is that it goes our own 
>> fundamental rules.
>> Mappers must not use other maps* even if whoever hold copyright is unable to 
>> sue for some reason.
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>> And "they can prove it" part may be misleading - you are not allowed to copy 
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>> you can hide the copying so that noone will notice it.
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>> *that is more complicated, we are must not copyrighted data on incompatible 
>> licenes -
>> but if you are unsure what it means do not use other maps and ask for help 
>> before doing this
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>>> Typically, with local edits, I put "Local knowledge" as the source.  Sounds 
>>> more highbrow than "my eyeballs". 
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>> I usually put survey/memory depending on how recent my data is.
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>>> IMO, if somebody is challenging one of your local edits, if they are not 
>>> local also, they should be told as much and sent on their way - UNLESS it's 
>>> something that relates to a mapping standard or best practice.  Then, learn 
>>> from your mistakes and move on.
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>> +1
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>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:32 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us <>>> 
>>> [email protected] <javascript:void(0)>>>> > wrote:
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>>>> this was a tool on the map that measured distance.
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>> Have you copied that map? I am unsure how the distance measuring tool
>> relates to "why are you telling me I can not use google as a map source"?
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>>>>> Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:29 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us 
>>>>> <>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:void(0)>>>>>> >:
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>>>>> You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source.
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>>>>> Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM?
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>>>>> "since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7 months 
>>>>> old."
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>>>>> FYI, world is larger than your local area.
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>>>>> Jun 13, 2020, 16:08 by >>>>> [email protected] 
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>>>>>> If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a person 
>>>>>> from the data group as an editor,
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>>>>>> asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to me, 
>>>>>> why are you telling me I can not use
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>>>>>> google as a map source, since all the maps on OSM are old news. like in 
>>>>>> my local area 7 months old.
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