People really should do some research before they post rubbish.
My message first, the other guy's message afterwards.  Enjoy.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Onj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark BurningHawk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "AGRIP User and 
Developer discussion list" <agrip-discuss@lists.agrip.org.uk>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AGRIP-discuss] ot: Team Talk


| Teamtalk has the ability unlike skype to be able to set it's voice 
quality.
| Skype runs at 16 khz only and requires p2p to work if you wish to play 
with
| a group of people which, if you're trying to host a skype conference and
| play a game at the same time, will be a drain on bandwidth.
| The issues with volumes being quiet is very simple to fix.  In the main
| tree-view there is a slider or two, and one of them is the overall volume
| slider for inbound traffic.
| I personally run and own, as specified by the developer of teamtalk, the
| largest server in the world to date and have done for more than a year.
| Far from skype being better, it's infinitely worce.
| Not only would the person hosting the skype conference have to have a 
great
| deal of bandwidth, tipically 3-6 k per person, the more people you have 
the
| more processor it uses.
| Teamtalk's highest quality sound setting is 32 khz, and skype's is a meer
| 16.  Rather sad when voip soundes so much better, and skype really do need
| to get their backsides in gear if they actually intend to realistically 
keep
| up with the market today.
| Lets assume you want a 5 person conference but want to play audio-quake at
| the same time and lets assume you need 4 kb per user.
| I'm not as yet even sure how much data quake sends both ways but it's more
| than dialup, especially on TBRN where  the server is heavily modded, but 
for
| the sake of it, lets say 5 kbps.
| for now we'll also say that like one friend of mine, you have a poxy 128 k
| upstream, and you're the only one able to host a skype conference with the 
4
| other people.
| Quake takes up 5 kb, skype will take up 16 kb, and this does not include
| overheads.  Oops?  We've successfully gone overquota.  What to do now?
| Well ladies, gentlemen and others, move to a better product.  Teamtalk.
| You can:
| Make a room on the server and have as many people there as you wish at
| whatever bitrate you wish, from a meer 600 bites per second, to 32 
kilobits
| per second.  Since the teamtalk server will be taking care of your 
traffic,
| you need not worry that you have too little bandwidth to host your skype
| conference.  It is unnecessary.
| Use either PTT (push-to-talk) or voice activation.
| Have true full-duplex where skype lyes.  Actually, the person with the
| loudest or most obnoxious microphone will physically vox out anyone else
| trying to speak.  skype is marketed as full-duplex but in actuality is 
not.
| Test this for yourself if you do not believe me, I urge each and every 
skype
| advicate to do so.
| Control the volumes of each person in the conference for the reasons
| specified above.  With teamtalk, each user has a mute and a volume which 
you
| can set at your pleasure.
|
| I could go on and on but I will not.
| If anyone has any questions, do not hesitate to skype me, (unfortunately I
| do still use the product,) and I will get you set up with Teamtalk if that
| is what you all require.
| My skype name is:
| Andre_Louis
|
| I have a tutorial about Teamtalk and links to connect to my server on my
| website.
| You will find the tutorial at the following url:
| http://andrelouis.com/tt_instalation.txt
| I await your calls.
|
|
|
| Andre P. Louis
|
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|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Mark BurningHawk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "AGRIP User and Developer discussion list"
| <agrip-discuss@lists.agrip.org.uk>
| Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:35 AM
| Subject: Re: [AGRIP-discuss] ot: Team Talk
|
|
|| My main problem with team talk is that the volume is quite low, compared
| to
|| some of the other sounds coming over the wave channels of my sound card.
|| I've checked all settings at this end and notice, for example, that its
|| quality compared to Skype is far inferior.  I apologize for seeming to
|| disparage the site.
||
|| ----- Original Message ----- 
|| From: "Matthew T. Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|| To: "AGRIP User and Developer discussion list"
|| <agrip-discuss@lists.agrip.org.uk>
|| Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:26 PM
|| Subject: Re: [AGRIP-discuss] ot: Team Talk
||
||
|| > Thanks for the info :-).
|| >
|| > Would it be helpful to be able to control that program from within the
|| > game?  If it's scriptable, it might be possible, in future.  Just a
|| > thought.
|| >
|| > Are there over VoIP programs people here use when fragging?
|| >
|| > best regards,
|| >
|| >
|| > -- 
|| > Matthew T. Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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