On 11/07/16 10:19 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Nextcloud forked OwnCloud last month and made its first release this > month. > > <http://www.zdnet.com/article/nextcloud-adds-enterprise-support-and-ios-appliance/> > Includes links to "Related Stories". > > Does anyone have any insight into which would be worth adopting? Or > something else? >
This is the big blog post announcement: http://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/ > - it looks as if more devs went with Nextcloud > Yes, it seems like all the key people, including some of the founders of the project, are going with NextCloud. That seems very likely to be the future. However, they'll need a bit of time. As an ownCloud user, I expect to move to NextCloud some time, but not today or tomorrow -- maybe later in 2016 or in 2017, as they get things in order. > - both are trying to make a commercial go of it. I fear that this doesn't > match my desire for open source from an open project. > "Commercial" is too broad -- from what I gather, the NextCloud fork exists specifically to do a better job at governance of the project from a software freedom perspective, to avoid too much control in the business side. For example, from that blog post ( http://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/ ): - We will no longer require a contributor license agreement from contributors. - We no longer do dual-licensing - The new trademark will be hold by an independent foundation. - We no longer do internal development planing behind closed doors. Everything will happen in the open. These are the kinds of things they've forked over, getting that relationship *right* between a free software project and a corporate sponsor. There are commercial approaches, like Automattic's with WordPress, where you have a separate foundation and a pretty healthy relationship with a primary corporate sponsor. Apparently, large chunks of the ownCloud community found there wasn't that proper governance and relationship through ownCloud Inc. -- at least, that's how I've understood it. > - I cringe at PHP. Especially since I'd like to expose my > installation to the internet. > PHP isn't inherently a problem, especially for sure a vibrant and strong project like this. I'd be worried about some module written by a single developer or something, but NextCloud/ownCloud being PHP itself is less important that the health and strength and approach to security of the project and its developers. *shrugs*
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