On 2018-01-08 04:48 PM, Andrew Paolucci via talk wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I believe from what is bouncing around the internet the upcoming line of 
> Intel Processors this year will still have the physical bug and the software 
> patch is seen as the "fix" for the foreseeable future. I was hoping for a 
> refund/return program similar to the Pentium floating point bug. If you are 
> willing to keep supporting Intel after this snafu I don't see a point in 
> waiting unless it's for new tech, not secure tech. AMD is a solid option 
> moving forward though, no hidden network stack or Minx OS onboard.

Sadly, AMD also has a separate chip with its own OS, and it has a buffer
overflow flaw (that is supposed to be fixed soon with bios/uefi updates):

http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2018/Jan/12

More general write up here:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/security-flaw-in-amds-secure-chip-on-chip-processor-disclosed-online/
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