I guess it depends on what you consider "email relay" For LPI's outgoing mail. we use mailman and OpenEMM for anything other than one-to-a-few personal communications.
For the SMTP relay we use Sparkpost. This is a combination of self-hosted open source solutions combined with a trusted cloud service owned by neither G nor M nor A. - Evan On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 02:05, ac via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I was wondering whether I am the only one noticing that Google and > Microsoft has become increasingly aggressive and underhanded in their > email operations? > > I noticed the trend a few years ago already and have been watching for > new patterns and collecting millions upon millions of spam emails > > Microsoft and Google is dominating email relay and their market share > in the geo areas where they dominate, has steadily increased each year. > > recently there has been more changes > > Both monopolies are now using more and more complex email headers. > > Both Microsoft and Google have become more aggressive, more dominating > and seemingly less ethical in their behaviors. > > Google has apparently moved their back end mail servers to private ipv6 > ranges and are pumping emails out, spam and ham, through ipv4. Google > has also become non responsive to abuse complaints. Microsoft also now > uses ipv6 but at least uses public ipv6, with abuse information but is > also 'allowing' spam and abuse to be relayed in much higher numbers. > > Bot of these (Microsoft and Google) are now relaying for criminals, > normal spam, pump end dump rubbish as well as ham, from the same public > ipv4 numbers. > > The result of this new aggressive push is declining quality of email > service for smaller providers - as ham is marked as spam more > frequently. > > They (Microsoft and Google) are using their sheer size to bully out > more market share and if the trend continues there will be no more > 'independent' email providers in the near future as more and more > providers are forced to run their email services through one of the two > monopolies. > > Anyone else noticed the more aggressive system designs, more aggressive > non responsiveness to abuse complaints and other non ethical behaviors? > And, is there anything that general society can even do? > > If there are only two email providers in the future, how long will it > take before there is just one? > > Andre > --- > Talk Mailing List > talk@gtalug.org > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch or @el56
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