On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 11:57, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <[email protected]> wrote: > > | From: William Park via talk <[email protected]> > | Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 13:52:21 -0500 > > | I'm beginning to like Thunderbird. It replaces fetchmail, procmail, > sendmail, > | mutt, and vim for mailing. I miss vim, though. > > I'm interested in improving my email routines. I spend a lot of time > with email so any improvement would be useful. > > So: what do you use? Why? > > Here's my answer. It is not a recommendationo. > > Most of us in this household use Alpine. Thats a venerable text-based-GUI > mail user agent. I've been using Pine/Alpine since the early 1990s (when > I switched from Berkeley mail (like mailx on Linux)). As you can tell, > I'm quite conservative. I used to say that I changed MUAs every decade, > but I'm behind now. > > Why do I like and stay with Pine? > - inertia > - modest subset of EMACS keystrokes > - stable but well-maintained > - works well through SSH > - I'm very comfortable with it > - has most features that I know that I want. > - Alpine does not hold my mail hostage: ordinary UNIX text tools can get > at it. (Alpine supports various formats but I use mbox.) > > Molly (my wife) uses Thunderbird. > - she's used to WIMP GUIs > - she does not use any advanced features > - dislikes and avoids updates > > Thunderbird: > > - seems attractive > > - was busted by a Ubuntu update that I had to diagnose and back out of. > I pinned the version of Thunderbird and the library at fault. > Nothing said by Ubuntu folks convinces me that it is safe to unpin > (archived mail is very important). > > - I don't know how to export the Thunderbird mail archives (but I haven't > put my mind to the problem) > > - future looks precarious. Mozilla seems to have cut the Thunderbird > project loose > > GMail: > > - seems to be taking over the world > > - I'm sometimes forced to use it. > > - runs well on smart phones > > - someone else does the maintenance > > - But: I want control over my mail. I don't want it in the cloud. I > don't want it to go through Google's hands (we run our own mailserver). > > - I want painless offline access to mail archives--- > Post to this mailing list [email protected] > Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
I have two primary email accounts, one at Gmail and one at Protonmail (Protonmail has free accounts: I like them enough that I'm paying for their account, although on usability Gmail is definitely better ...). I was intending to move entirely to Protonmail, I seem to have stalled on that. I have Thunderbird set up at home, primarily as a way to back up Gmail and Protonmail to my hard drive: it's rare that I use Thunderbird as a client, but it's always worked fine when I do. Protonmail, because of its encryption, requires a special "bridge" software to allow local clients to access their mail server. It's a lousy arrangement, but does seem to work - and I bought into their service in part because of that encryption. -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ [email protected] --- Post to this mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
