On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 11:03, Lennart Sorensen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:47:30AM -0400, Michael Hill via talk wrote: > > I prefer the elegant design and centralized vision of the GNOME > > desktop, but the whininess of the GNOME hatred here never gets old. > > When a desktop going from version 2 to 3 throws away everything users > are used to, and the developers simply don't care, then it deserves any > hate it receives. > > If they wanted to have a totally new vision (which is perfectly fine to > do), they should have started a new project, not hijacked an existing one.
I think that Lennart has just reduced the whole problem to one sentence. A new vision is good - the history of Linux is littered with "new visions," most of them long deceased ... however, the ones that succeed move us forward. But GNOME - as he points out - didn't so much create a new vision as simultaneously hijacking and destroying an old one. Hugh sees this as a rewrite, but when almost nothing of the former "vision" or paradigm remains, it's really a new project. And yeah, if you spin it off as a new project you may be abandoning the old one - but at least if you abandon it there's an opportunity for someone to pick it up ... Which brings up an interesting point. As much as people scream about GNOME3, I don't think anyone forked GNOME2, which they're more than welcome to do. Someone offended by KDE4 forked KDE3 and carried it on as the Trinity Desktop Environment ( http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ ), which is still going. So I guess the GNOME3 haters just aren't that motivated ... If anyone is wondering where I stand on this (I'm sure most don't care but one or two might) - I never liked GNOME2, and I really dislike the behaviour of GNOME3. But I don't have any skin in the game because I still use Openbox on most machines (with 'fbpanel' and 'dmenu' or 'rofi' as a launcher). If I feel the need for a full desktop, LXQt isn't bad and lighter weight than the alternatives. -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ giles...@gmail.com --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk