On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:24 PM Giles Orr via talk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 16:40, o1bigtenor via talk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:41 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> | From: Evan Leibovitch via talk <[email protected]> > >> > <<<snipped>>> > > Thanking one and all for their input!!!!!!!!! > > There appear to be a lot of definitions of what "ergonomic" means when > it comes to keyboards. I tend to the most extreme example: I own > three (working) Kinesis Advantage keyboards. The Advantage2 can be > had for $400-$450 Canadian - not cheap. They come with Cherry brown > switches, but I have a habit of retrofitting them with Cherry blues - > which makes them noisier and more expensive. > > Everybody is recommending the keyboard(s) they love ... I have a > CoolerMaster with Cherry Blues, and several IBM model Ms, and have had > many other types of "ergonomic" keyboards over the years. I love the > feel of the switches in both the CoolerMaster and the model Ms, but I > find I need the two halves of the keyboard farther apart for comfort. > I also prefer vertical columns of keys - as opposed to the now totally > unnecessary leftward slant of key columns on almost all modern > keyboards. I've experimented with keyboards a lot to end up where I > am: the Kinesis Advantage took a month to adjust to, but has been > worth it ... for me. It's my daily driver both at home and at work. > You have to make your own call on these things. > > A note about gaming keyboards: gamers seem to tend to prefer low > activation force, linear keys (Cherry Blacks or Cherry Reds). Most > people who type for a living (as opposed to gaming) seem to prefer > "tactile" keys, which is quite different from the "linear" keys which > don't have any feedback at all until they bottom out. I hate linears > (but again - personal taste). And then there's the "clicky" thing: > the noise the IBM model M makes can be enough to clear a small room. > Some people really really hate that noise. I get that, but I still > love the feel of those things. > > Further reading (my intro to keyboard layouts and key types): > https://www.gilesorr.com/blog/computer-keyboards.html > Thanks for that Giles. Keyboards are a very personal choice, and what's right for one user isn't going to be right for another. Personally, I use a ThinkPad X1 Carbon quite regularly and have for ~10 years, and love the touchpoint (red nub), so even my external keyboard for a long time was the ThinkPad TrackPoint kb ( https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KBD-BO-TrackPoint-KBD-US-English/p/4Y40X49493). Over time though, my posture was suffering and my wrists were sore at the end of a workday. Combined with a personal accident that resulted in some permanent fingertip damage on my dominant hand, I needed something with better ergonomics, so I took the plunge on a split style, mechanical keyboard, and can't imagine going back. The added benefit of having the desk area immediately in front of me wide open is great too. I would like to try an ortholinear split keyboard at some point, but have no real desire to spend a month or two re-learning to type again. -jason
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