I have the Dell Venue Pro also. In fact I have two of them and an HP Stream 7. There are lots of Windows tablets on ebay. The cheapest I have seen is the toshiba encore series ~30USD. But they are almost identical to the Venue Pro Debian runs very very well on them. But it was a pain to get the wifi recognized. The problem wasn't so much getting it to work, but more of "ok now what? what can I do with this?"
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:06 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < [email protected]> wrote: > | From: Ansar Mohammed via talk <[email protected]> > > | Depending on what you want to achieve, > > Yes! > > | IMHO you can get a used HP 10 inch > | tablet on eBay for $50 running Windows and flatten it with Debian. > | https://www.ebay.com/itm/324124770651 > | Windows on 7-10 inch tablets are all over ebay. > > Not a terrible idea, but there are problems with this particular > example: > > - ebay.COM: > US$50, not C$50 > unknown (to me) problems and expense getting it across the border > unlikely to have a useful warranty (used, across border) > > - specs: https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04553375 > > - 1280x800 resolution > > - poor SoC > > https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80274/intel-atom-processor-z3735f-2m-cache-up-to-1-83-ghz.html > SoC launched 7 years ago > intentionally crippled on launch > Intel's goal: compete against ARM but don't cannibalize x86 > Microsoft's goal: compete against Android/iOS but don't > cannibalize existing Windows market. > surely 32-bit UEFI even though CPU can do x86-64. > > - only one USB socket and that is only USB 2 > > Linux support is mixed for this kind of tablet (I have a Dell Venue 8 > Pro of this generation). Typically the SoC has very odd bits. Like: > audio is hooked up in a non-standard and non-obvious way. Like: UEFI > cannot access SD card (so you cannot boot from it). I was defeated > when I tried to put linux on it back in the day. I think that Linux > mostly works these days (I tried booting the Venue 8 off a live Fedora > stick a few months ago). > > There was a tremendous blossoming of Windows tablets then > (Win 8.1 era). Evolution could have improved them but instead it > killed them off (Intel and Microsoft threw in the towel). Windows > tablets now are expensive and inferior. This is what currently passes > as a good deal (yuck): > > https://forums.redflagdeals.com/best-buy-microsoft-surface-laptop-go-12-4-i5-1035g1-4-64-emmc-499-99-2520226/ > > Currently, there are often reasonable deals on reasonable laptops with > touch. But they start at over $400 new. Ones that I've considered > start at about $700 on sale. > > The Lenovo is not much more expensive than the HP (when you factor in > cross-border friction and used versus new) and has usefully better > capabilities. But the HP can probably run Linux natively rather than > in a container. > > - USB 3.x with extras vs USB 2.0 (OTG?) > - 4G RAM vs 2G > - 64G eMMC vs 32G eMMC > - 1920x1200 vs 1280x800 resolution > - warranty support vs no support > > If you want a good tablet, and don't need Linux, it is hard to argue > against iPads. Android tablets only seem to win when you consider price > (which I do) or tinkerability. > > ChromeOS tablets are probably clunkier than Android tablets but they > can run Android apps and they get support for many more years. Linux > under ChromeOS is supported by Google but Linux under Android is not. > > Windows Subsystem for Linux is a potentially interesting thing on > tablets. It will not run on 32-bit Windows, and so it won't run on > this HP. Actually, the HP hardware is too limited to be officially > supported by current Window 10, but I think it works. 32G of "disk" > is a nightmare when running Windows Update. > --- > Post to this mailing list [email protected] > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >
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